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Today, lets gto back to "trickle down doesnt work"

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And we'll give the progs the opening statement.

 

What is it?  Whats it do?  Why doesnt it work?  Is it broke, or just wrong?

 

 

AND

 

 

What works?  What is right?

 

 

When you people are done let us know.  Ok.......go

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Just to be clear, are we talking about urine trickling down the leg here. Because if we are I hate when that happens. Does that make me a hater?

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6 hours ago, Little said:

And we'll give the progs the opening statement.

 

What is it?  Whats it do?  Why doesnt it work?  Is it broke, or just wrong?

 

 

AND

 

 

What works?  What is right?

 

 

When you people are done let us know.  Ok.......go

that's not how it works

 

it's all trickle up

it starts with the people with the money (the rich) and they hire people WITH EVEN MORE MONEY to do the work for them

just go to every big business.  you see the Suits working cash registers and stocking shelves and taking out the garbage

 

 

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I am always tickled that liberals don't like trickle down...giving to business and having wealth "trickle down" to everyone.

 

But they do like giving their money to government and letting government  trickle wealth down to everyone.

 

Liberals hate and distrust Big Business because they are, well, Big and Greedy.

 

But liberals love and trust Big Government because they are, well, Big and Greedy.

 

They confuse me. 

 

 

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58 mins ago, Knight771 said:

I am always tickled that liberals don't like trickle down...giving to business and having wealth "trickle down" to everyone.

 

But they do like giving their money to government and letting government  trickle wealth down to everyone.

 

Liberals hate and distrust Big Business because they are, well, Big and Greedy.

 

But liberals love and trust Big Government because they are, well, Big and Greedy.

 

They confuse me. 

 

 

Problem is it's not trickling down

from The Economic Policy Insitute

"Since 1978, and adjusted for inflation, American workers have seen an 11.2 percent increase in compensation. During that same period, CEO's have seen a 937 percent increase in earnings. That salary growth is even 70 percent faster than the rise in the stock market, according to the Economic Policy Institute"

S&P 500 was at 90 in 1978 now it's 2800 

CEO salaries compared to workers went from 20 times to over 100 times.

 

Should you expect a 1 to 1 ratio as far as % increase the answer is of course no but if the bosses salary goes up 900% and the value of the company goes up 600% should your salary increase by more than 11% over 40 years (adjusted for inflation) 

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10 mins ago, Jay Dog said:

Problem is it's not trickling down

from The Economic Policy Insitute

"Since 1978, and adjusted for inflation, American workers have seen an 11.2 percent increase in compensation. During that same period, CEO's have seen a 937 percent increase in earnings. That salary growth is even 70 percent faster than the rise in the stock market, according to the Economic Policy Institute"

S&P 500 was at 90 in 1978 now it's 2800 

CEO salaries compared to workers went from 20 times to over 100 times.

 

Should you expect a 1 to 1 ratio as far as % increase the answer is of course no but if the bosses salary goes up 900% and the value of the company goes up 600% should your salary increase by more than 11% over 40 years (adjusted for inflation) 

 

how has the work changed for the low level employee since then?

how has the work changed for the CEO since then?

 

if it has become harder for an employee to pick up a product off an assembly line and put it in a box, then how much more money should that employee be paid?

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In a society where doing for yourself, being self made, etc. are some of our most valued attributes, I don't know why anyone would expect the trickle down theory to work in this country. 

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Trillions were recently dumped into banking and it was used to re inflate assets rather than to invest in production

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The only problem with trickle down is that as the economy expands and taxes start rolling in the government feels that it has to spend every penny of it

Cutting back and paying off debt would do more for the people of this country in the long run than any new and bigger bureaucracies 

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The problem with trickle down is that gifts to "owners" doesn't simply translate into investment in production and labor; that should be painfully obvious in light of the bailout.

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It works for shareholders

Theyfeel the love

 

entry level workers, not so much 

 

that crumb of a bonus won’t even cover the increase at the pump 

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3 hours ago, Jay Dog said:

Problem is it's not trickling down

from The Economic Policy Insitute

"Since 1978, and adjusted for inflation, American workers have seen an 11.2 percent increase in compensation. During that same period, CEO's have seen a 937 percent increase in earnings. That salary growth is even 70 percent faster than the rise in the stock market, according to the Economic Policy Institute"

S&P 500 was at 90 in 1978 now it's 2800 

CEO salaries compared to workers went from 20 times to over 100 times.

 

Should you expect a 1 to 1 ratio as far as % increase the answer is of course no but if the bosses salary goes up 900% and the value of the company goes up 600% should your salary increase by more than 11% over 40 years (adjusted for inflation) 

That would seem to convey logic to a mind that is riddled with resentment toward the rich.

To the average mind, not crippled with jealousy,  it lacks sense.

Guarenteed opportunity is freedom. Guarenteed outcome is communism.

 

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