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There Was No Collusion! (Except by my son)

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1 hour ago, Joe said:

Nah. It's another "H" word - Hubris. She & the DNC did it to themselves.Competent Pols would have gotten her the win.

No matter how many times you tell yourself that, you're flat out wrong.

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56 mins ago, JimG said:

Didnt russians run the largest BLM page on Facebook? 

 

Was that to get trump elected? 

Dang it, a fact......

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4 mins ago, tomkaz said:

Dang it, a fact......

They're certainly pesky. Like the fact that Seth Rich is the one and only person/entity/group that "hacked" the DNC emails. No Russian involvement. And poor Seth paid dearly for his patriotism.

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2 hours ago, Gotcow? said:

A mortician could not have made Hillary look good enough to win.

A pretty good line.  I like it.  Snappy.

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1 hour ago, BrianBM said:

A pretty good line.  I like it.  Snappy.

BM what are the sentencing guidelines for collusion?

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5 hours ago, tomkaz said:

Because it WAS about adoptions and the Magitsky Act once the meeting started?

 

Gut check, you all know that the lawyer was in the USA as a lobbyist to lobby against that particular act/sanction, RIGHT?

 

That she had spent weeks lobbying bipartisan members of Congress on others against the Act, RIGHT? 

 

And you know that the Russian response to the Act was to stop all adoptions of parentless Russian children by Americans, RIGHT? 

 

And you know that it has been reported by all involved that the sole discussion of any substance in the meeting was the Act, RIGHT?  

 

And that’s why it was reported that the actual discussion in the meeting was about “adoptions”. That there was next to no discussion of Clinton info, etc. 

your kidding right-trump jr admitted it was about getting dirt on clinton-the president himself declared it was about getting dirt on clinton-keep sticking to the adoption theory trump made up on air force one which he has since admitted was not what the meeting was about

 

 

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" the President acknowledged that the meeting was accepted on the premise that Trump Jr. would get dirt on Hillary Clinton.
"This was a meeting to get information on an opponent, totally legal and done all the time in politics - and it went nowhere. I did not know about it!" the President tweeted.
 
 

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like bannon said jr and cohen would be the weak links-bannon called jr actions treason and he is right cohen turned rat and jr will be next to fall

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1 hour ago, superstriper said:

like bannon said jr and cohen would be the weak links-bannon called jr actions treason and he is right cohen turned rat and jr will be next to fall

Mully, please interpret for us, in as least a loquacious manner possible, the text book definition of “treason”. You know, the only crime that is defined in our founding documents.

 

And then, please apply it to this situation, private citizens meeting with private citizens NOT in a time of declared war. 

 

Can you do that in less than 100 words? 

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9 mins ago, tomkaz said:

Mully, please interpret for us, in as least a loquacious manner possible, the text book definition of “treason”. You know, the only crime that is defined in our founding documents.

 

And then, please apply it to this situation, private citizens meeting with private citizens NOT in a time of declared war. 

 

Can you do that in less than 100 words? 

Impeach !

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1 hour ago, superstriper said:

your kidding right-trump jr admitted it was about getting dirt on clinton-the president himself declared it was about getting dirt on clinton-keep sticking to the adoption theory trump made up on air force one which he has since admitted was not what the meeting was about

The meeting was supposed to be about possible dirt on Clinton funding abuses. 

 

The meeting’s focus was about the Magnitsky Act and adoptions. It was a bait & switch by the Russian dame, who was in cahoots with Fusion GPS who had been working to hang a Russian-Trump collusion charge on Trump. 

 

So, how are the two mutually exclusive?

 

The AF1 “excuse” was about the actual meeting content. 

 

The most recent disclosures were about the offered/potential topics of discussion before the meeting. 

 

The two are not mutually exclusive nor in conflict. 

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3 hours ago, Fishy Fisher said:

They're certainly pesky. Like the fact that Seth Rich is the one and only person/entity/group that "hacked" the DNC emails. No Russian involvement. And poor Seth paid dearly for his patriotism.

An alternate fact peddled by the usual anonymous cranks on Reddit. 

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16 mins ago, tomkaz said:

The meeting was supposed to be about possible dirt on Clinton funding abuses. 

 

The meeting’s focus was about the Magnitsky Act and adoptions. It was a bait & switch by the Russian dame, who was in cahoots with Fusion GPS who had been working to hang a Russian-Trump collusion charge on Trump. 

 

So, how are the two mutually exclusive?

 

The AF1 “excuse” was about the actual meeting content. 

 

The most recent disclosures were about the offered/potential topics of discussion before the meeting. 

 

The two are not mutually exclusive nor in conflict. 

The only claim made that the meeting had anything to do with adoptions was made as a part of the Trump Administration's lie. That lie is officially withdrawn.  There was no "bait & switch," and Rob Goldstone's much-quoted note to Don Jr. says that what is offered is part of the Russian Government's support of the Trump campaign. This did not disturb Don Jr. in the least, and his reply was to the effect that this offer would be great, especially later in the season. 

 

I wonder how much discussion is going on in the White House about a pardon for Don Jr.  It's nothing that the GOP wants to see happen before the midterms. Fortunately for Don Jr., there has been no official warning (as is normal) from Mueller's staff to Don Jr. that he is the target of a grand jury investigation. There probably isn't time to empanel a grand jury for Don Jr. this side of November.

 

" ......by the Russian dame, who was in cahoots with Fusion GPS who had been working to hang a Russian-Trump collusion charge on Trump."  There is zero evidence for that, too. Ms. Veselnitskaya and her Kremlin handler have no publicly identified tie to Fusion GPS. The claim doesn't even make sense. What Steele collected was Russian gossip about Trump, and certainly not in his favor.  What Goldstone and and Ms. Veselnitskaya offered was dirt on Hillary.  Are they supposed to be conniving together in order to provide support to both sides, simultaneously?

 

 

 

 

 

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9 hours ago, Joe said:

yep. Party BEFORE country! Freakin' traitors the lot of ya!

Yeah right, Joe! The Dem party and all of those poor beknighted fools who can not admit we have a Democratic Elected President Are ALL About PARTY and not the Democratic Republic’s rules laid out in our Constitution.  

 

The Atifica,The Resitance and BLM are the traitors.

 

A US President can only be tried or Impeached is he fails to protect the Constitution,

and the Nation,  If y’all force President Trump Out, anode lead a seditious revolt  the American People who believes in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights  will come after those traitors.  Every American Patriot who has taken the oath to Defend our Nation and its Laws, Freedom and Liberties against the enemy’s, Foreign and DOMESTIC, is bound to up hold the Law,

 

The failed revolt will overcome the liberal and progressive leftists in no more than

two months!

 

Our Sons and Daughters in the Volunteer US Armed Forces will not be on the side of Traitors,

 

Our People want Peace, but will defend the nation to keep our Liberty and Freedom!

 

We have more guns, bullets and  weapons training than the masked pisants, as Americans who own guns and how to use them. 

 

The socialistic Democrat Party is broken, and a minority!  The #Walkaway Movement” is departing the DP and The Dems have no idea how any have moved Right out of their ranks,

 

Heed the Warning, Joe!

 

 

 

 

 

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