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Greetings photogs,  as a rank amateur cell phone type pic taker, I've sometimes thought it would be nice to be able to take some outdoor shots when we're out hiking, fishing etc.  My question involves what camera/lenses would be appropriate for taking some nice user level shots.  I've just seen an add at a local dept. store for a canon eos rebel t6 with the standard 18-55 lens along with a 75-300 included.  Price is 449.00 and seemed like a pretty good deal if it would be a good unit to do what I'm looking for.  User friendliness is important as I will probably be learning as I go.  Opinions appreciated.  thanks.

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A lesson I learned it's more about the lenses than the camera, you'll have to do your own homework to establish your realistic needs of the camera. The lenses as well need to be generally specific to the photo's you want to make. Also explore the used photo equipment retailers, myself and others have used them with no regrets. There are tons of lens and camera reviews on the net and some are slanted but you can certainly learn something from each. Good luck as it's a rewarding hobby and there is a wealth of information being shared by very talented people who post in this forum.

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Dwyak, welcome! 

 

As far as what camera one get or avoid that is like buying cars or fishing rods; it’s has everything to do with the users needs and wants and what feels right to them. Honestly, someone else cannot choose that for anyone else, just far too many variables. That said, “hiking and good user level shots” that cellphone camera may be all you really need or want. There are some excellent images being taken with cellphones and post processed in some great apps that are available. Remember whatever you choose to use you have to carry with you .... believe me it’s a commitment to carry excellent photographic tools afield and unless it’s the only reason you are out there is for a photo this commitment to carry gear can get in the way of the real reason you are out there. If all you are going to do with your photos is share them with others online or through social networking you really won’t see a big difference in the tools you use if you work on your post processing skills. 

 

Now, if you are going for specific genre like wildlife that needs some telephoto lenses or macro’s that need extreme close focus glass, or even 30”x40” prints or larger then a separate camera with lenses that fit your need is the way you must go. But most other things can be handled with cellphone cameras using various techniques or post processing apps. 

 

Like shooting or fishing or most everything else its the user not his gear that makes the biggest difference with their results. That cellphone camera for images displayed online is far more capable that the tools Ansel Adams used to produce images still considered masterpieces. Cellphone cameras are extremely capable for online use and generally you are carrying it with you afield anyway..... hope this helped!

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Thanks guys,  I do think I'd be interested in bringing the subject closer such as birds in their natural habitat.  Would the lens in my original post (75-300) be appropriate to do that?

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9 mins ago, dwyak said:

Thanks guys,  I do think I'd be interested in bringing the subject closer such as birds in their natural habitat.  Would the lens in my original post (75-300) be appropriate to do that?

As a general rule, I would say no.

 

Because you me mentioned birds, it changes things a little, whatever you get will seem like not enough.

 

Most here use something in  the 500/600 mm range for birds.....and we all want more.

 

Something like the Tamron 150/600 does a very nice job at a reasonable price, many of us use one.

Some other nice options out there too but probably a bit more money.

 

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The OP might want to consider a super-zoom point and shoot.  Even though I've got a great DSLR setup now its not what I'd want to drag along on a hike or when fishing.  Too expensive.  Too delicate.  Too heavy.

 

There are a number of very good super-zoom point and shoots on the market from Sony, Canon and Nikon.  I have an older Sony while my father has a Canon.  Both of them give great results.  I also know people who have the Nikon versions.  

 

 

 

 

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On 5/12/2018 at 7:50 AM, dwyak said:

Greetings photogs,  as a rank amateur cell phone type pic taker, I've sometimes thought it would be nice to be able to take some outdoor shots when we're out hiking, fishing etc.  My question involves what camera/lenses would be appropriate for taking some nice user level shots.  I've just seen an add at a local dept. store for a canon eos rebel t6 with the standard 18-55 lens along with a 75-300 included.  Price is 449.00 and seemed like a pretty good deal if it would be a good unit to do what I'm looking for.  User friendliness is important as I will probably be learning as I go.  Opinions appreciated.  thanks.

 

Regarding the T6 with the lenses you reference.  My sister has that exact rig.  I would not rate her pictures as being anything spectacular compared to the Superzoom cameras I listed above.  

 

I have the 18-55 lens in my kit.  Its an OK lens......just ok.  Below is probably the best shot I've gotten with the 18-55.  Its OK but my iPhone probably could have gotten me the same shot if all I was looking to do is post it on social media.

 

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A couple more with the 18-55

 

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There are a bushel full of great photographic tools out there and if you stay with the top 6 major brands iyou won’t find a bad one in the group. 

 

As Mako Capt pointed out superzoom point and shoots or bridge cameras are a great pick for portability and reach some getting out to 630mm and f4 which blows my mind what they are able to build these days in a compact package. I have seen some pic taken by a well know wildlife photog with a 20mp all in one superzoom bridge camera and online I see no differences from those he takes with his pro camera and  $13k lens. 

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DSLR is nice to have, but I really only use it when I am specifically out to "take photos". 

 

I have point and shoot that has a 18X optical zoom and is smaller than a deck of cards that goes pretty much everywhere.  It produces good results, is so small you don't know you are carrying it, and at $200 if I "oops" it when standing in 3' of water then the pain is limited.  It also offers a bit more creative control than my phone.

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Yeah that sure beats a backpack with 40lbs of stuff in it dedicated for a destination shot taking away from the journey and the experience's you encounter to get the shot.

 

Now that I no longer work in photography if I was to startup all over again i would get a bridge camera and be done with it.

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14991451_10205575861394676_7269325257820499992_o.thumb.jpg.9387c3c4476ddefea5ce1f8e2debecad.jpg1614425_10200440941584890_1195772122_o.thumb.jpg.7728f6e89979d64f92d9166bd087cfe8.jpgHere are some samples of shots taken with my 6 year old Sony point and shoot.  The new ones are even better.

 

 

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Thanks for all the great info guys.  I may have to look into the super zoom point and shoot.  Might at least be a great way to see what they can do for not too much  $$.

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5 mins ago, dwyak said:

Thanks for all the great info guys.  I may have to look into the super zoom point and shoot.  Might at least be a great way to see what they can do for not too much  $$.

Dpreviewdotcom is a great place to start your research 

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