Fredrick Posted September 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) * Edited September 30, 2020 by TimS We don’t promote FB or allow linking to FB, sorry. " Rule #1 Fish where the fish are, Rule # 2 Fish where the fish are ." Jack Gartside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianBM Posted October 3, 2020 Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 Fredrick, you wouldn't by chance just be here to troll a bit, would you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afishinado Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 13 hours ago, BrianBM said: Fredrick, you wouldn't by chance just be here to troll a bit, would you? +1 Agree ^ RedGreen and Fredrick 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredrick Posted October 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) On 10/4/2020 at 8:18 AM, afishinado said: +1 Agree ^ I have better things to do with my time then to troll people on a forum unlike afishinado (Tom) here . People these days just don't like be presented with facts if it conflicts with what they believe or were told previously. Probably why we have a problem with cancel culture these days as well . Edited October 6, 2020 by Fredrick The Mad Deckhand 1 " Rule #1 Fish where the fish are, Rule # 2 Fish where the fish are ." Jack Gartside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianBM Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 " .... don't like to be presented with facts ...." Well, Mr. Odenkirk is doubtless well versed in snakehead biology. I am sure he knows the law in his home jurisdiction. However, your representation that no state can require the killing of snakeheads is an opinion of law. Mr. Witek has put New York State's law up for all to see. If you can cite a case holding the New York regulation unlawful, I'll read it with interest (I am also an attorney) but short of that, you're simply wrong. Got a case? It need not be a string citation, any citation to an official Reporter will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredrick Posted October 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 Brian I’ve met and talked with at least 5 conservation officers three were from different states .And I asked them all can the government make you kill something . And they all said the same thing ,no government can force you to take a life .So are the ones that get paid to enforce the law wrong as well as Odenkirk ? " Rule #1 Fish where the fish are, Rule # 2 Fish where the fish are ." Jack Gartside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredrick Posted October 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 On 9/28/2020 at 11:02 AM, CWitek said: Yes, we are in the same country, but that country is based on a federal system and a Constitution which reserves certain enumerated powers to the federal government--and managing snakeheads is not one of those powers--and leaves all other powers to the states, who can set any laws that they want, provided that they don't violate the US Constitution.. If you want to get an idea how that works, try ordering a drink in New York, Utah, and a few different counties in North Carolina, and compare how the laws in just those three states differ. As an attorney licensed to practice in both New York and Connecticut, I can assure you that the laws of even two neighboring states can be substantially different. If you really want to "educate" SOL members about snakeheads, don't just tell us that there is "proven evidence aka published research." Provide us with at least the abstract to the papers that you reference, so that we can read them and "educate" ourselves. Always willing to learn something new, but that requires reviewing the data, not just believing someone's unsupported claim that it exists. I may not be an attorney but this article makes an compelling argument Recognition of a constitutional right, of course, does not mean that the right can never be infringed. Rather, as with most rights, the constitutional right not to kill can presumably be trumped by a sufficiently compelling government interest and a narrowly tailored law. In the vast majority of cases, however, the government will not be able to meet this test, leaving individuals free to decide for themselves whether they are willing to participate in government-sanctioned killings. https://law.emory.edu/elj/content/volume-62/issue-1/articles/constitutional-right-not-to-kill.html " Rule #1 Fish where the fish are, Rule # 2 Fish where the fish are ." Jack Gartside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGreen Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 On 10/3/2020 at 6:39 PM, BrianBM said: Fredrick, you wouldn't by chance just be here to troll a bit, would you? Definitely not trolling, just trying to do what he says he is honestly. That's the impression that I get. I didn't know snakeheads were still this controversial. Fredrick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianBM Posted October 10, 2020 Report Share Posted October 10, 2020 On 10/5/2020 at 6:21 PM, Fredrick said: Brian I’ve met and talked with at least 5 conservation officers three were from different states .And I asked them all can the government make you kill something . And they all said the same thing ,no government can force you to take a life .So are the ones that get paid to enforce the law wrong as well as Odenkirk ? Phrased as you phrase it, I'm not surprised at the answers you got. Show a New York DEC officer, or a park ranger, the regulation printed above. Ask if this is legal, if NYS can really require you not to release a snakehead. See what answer you get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredrick Posted October 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) Nice fattie I caught last week on top while on Crazy Larry’s towee great fishing platform. Edited October 11, 2020 by Fredrick " Rule #1 Fish where the fish are, Rule # 2 Fish where the fish are ." Jack Gartside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianBM Posted October 11, 2020 Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 Nice fish. If eaten, how was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredrick Posted October 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) No we didn't eat the fish and they taste delicious * Edited October 13, 2020 by TimS Please don’t post commercial links here - we don’t allow it - thanks. " Rule #1 Fish where the fish are, Rule # 2 Fish where the fish are ." Jack Gartside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panfish Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 Frederick this is Baron and I still say those fish are beautiful ugly. We will get together in spring I hope and fish these critters. Fredrick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredrick Posted December 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2020 Here part one of videos clips from my snakehead season this year . " Rule #1 Fish where the fish are, Rule # 2 Fish where the fish are ." Jack Gartside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numbskull Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 Looks like it is all about the hunt and the hit. The fight seems to be over very quickly. Any opinions on how they compare to a LMB of similar weight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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