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Anti-Gun Dems Come Up Empty

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Got to love this one. 

 

A total failure on their part. 

 

What will they try next?

 

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An investigation requested by two fierce anti-gun members of Congress to determine if firearms are purchased illegally from internet dealers has come up empty. Maryland Congressman Elijah Cummings and Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren demanded the probe in the aftermath of mass shootings and the investigative arm of Congress, the Government Accountability Office (GAO), conducted a lengthy covert operation to try to purchase firearms illegally from internet dealers.

All 72 of Congressional investigators’ attempts to purchase a firearm illegally via the surface web were unsuccessful, slamming Cummings’ and Warren’s claims that guns are easily obtained by criminal elements on the internet. “All of our attempts to purchase firearms from private sellers on the surface web were unsuccessful,” the GAO writes in an extensive report. “Our covert testing involving GAO agents attempting to purchase firearms illegally on the Surface Web were unsuccessful. Specifically, private sellers on Surface Web gun forums and in classified ads were unwilling to sell a firearm to our agents that self-identified as being prohibited from possessing a firearm.” Most of the sellers refused to complete a transaction once the undercover investigator revealed either a shipping address across state lines or a prohibition by law from owning firearms. Five of the vendors went so far as to freeze the undercover GAO accounts, preventing agents from using forums and attempting to make a purchase.

In their ardent push to ban guns Cummings and Warren, both high-profile Democrats, questioned whether the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) was enforcing gun laws involving transactions facilitated by the internet. The lawmakers asked the GAO to investigate whether online private dealers sell firearms to prohibited individuals. The probe was conducted from July 2015 to November 2017, in accordance with generally accepted government auditing standards. It turns out that the ATF’s Internet Investigations Center, created to investigate buyers and sellers who use the internet to facilitate illegal firearms transactions, is indeed doing its job efficiently, according to the bipartisan GAO. “The Center uses several tools to provide investigative support to ATF, which has resulted in the arrests of individuals using the Internet to facilitate illegal firearm purchases,” the GAO report states.

Both Cummings and Warren have been vocal advocates for strict gun control measures in recent years. Last year Cummings joined House Democrats in a protest against congressional inaction on gun violence. “Every year, tens of thousands of Americans die as a result of gun violence,” the veteran congressman said during the heavily publicized sit-in. “In some states, firearms take more lives than car accidents. The American people are fed up with inaction and so am I. It is time for House Republicans to treat gun violence like the scourge on our country that it is.” The demonstration took place months after Cummings praised former President Barack Obama’s executive actions to prevent gun violence by expanding criminal background checks.

Warren has also been on a longtime war path against Americans’ rights to own firearms, proclaiming that “Rambo-style assault weapons” should be banned. The liberal icon co-sponsored a 2013 law  to ban military-style assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. She warned her colleagues during a speech on the Senate floor last year that Congress would have “blood on our hands” if assault weapons aren’t banned. After the Las Vegas shooting that killed dozens and injured hundreds, Warren took to social media to warn that “Tragedies like Las Vegas have happened too many times. We need to have the conversation about how to stop gun violence. We need it NOW.”

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And now, the rest of the story.

 

From guns.com, 12/29/2017:

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A federal report released last week detailed a covert government investigation into illegal online gun sales, uncovering layers of complexity unaddressed by previous studies.

 

The Government Accountability Office spent more than two years answering gun ads online to illustrate the loopholes prohibited purchasers exploit to avoid the federal background check process — ultimately discovering the biggest road blocks came from sellers themselves.

 

Between July 2015 and November 2017, the GAO recorded 79 attempts to buy firearms from private sellers online, according its report released Dec. 21. Only two proved successful — from dealers on the ‘Dark Web,’ a deeper layer of the internet accessed through specific software designed to increase anonymity. The untraceable nature of the Dark Web attracts a range of criminal activity, from drug dealing to firearms trafficking to child pornography.

 

The 72 potential sales initiated at firearm marketplaces on the surface web — the traditional internet accessed through web browsers like Google and FireFox — all fell through. Some 27 private sellers declined the transaction after the undercover agents disclosed their prohibited status and another 29 refused to ship across state lines. Five transactions failed because the involved website froze agents’ accounts and 11 more sellers ran scams on agents after learning of their desire to circumvent federally licensed firearms dealers.

 

“In two of these instances, we made a payment and never received the firearm or a refund,” the office said in the report. “In the remaining nine attempted scams, our agents determined that the seller may not be legitimate and therefore did not complete the purchase.”

 

Undercover agents reported limited success on the Dark Web with the purchase of an AR-15 and an Uzi — advertised as fully automatic — that were shipped across state lines through the United States Postal Service.

The GAO said five of the seven Dark Web attempts failed because sellers stopped communicating with agents, experienced technical difficulties or refused payment from an escrow account.

 

The office conducted the investigation at the request of members of Congress engaged in the debate about the role of existing gun laws in preventing mass shootings. No recommendations were made.

 

Everytown for Gun Safety President John Feinblatt lauded the results as further proof of the country’s problem with unregulated gun sales, but criticized the office’s investigation technique.

 

“Unfortunately, the new paper is only so helpful — GAO undercover investigators took the unusual step of asserting that they were prohibited purchasers, effectively stopping these sales before they could be completed,” he said. “But time and again, Everytown’s research has shown overwhelming evidence that guns are readily available through unlicensed sellers, online and at gun shows, and prohibited purchasers flock disproportionately to those venues to buy guns without a background check.”

 

The ATF arrested more than 12,000 prohibited purchasers between 2014 and 2016, according to the report. The agency also arrested 322 unlicensed dealers, 204 private sellers for transferring guns to disqualified buyers and 53 more for the unlawful interstate transfer of firearms. Nine out of 10 defendants in these cases received a conviction.

 

 

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How can you not laugh at this?

 

"11 more sellers ran scams on agents after learning of their desire to circumvent federally licensed firearms dealers."

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26 mins ago, FrankStar said:

The ATF arrested more than 12,000 prohibited purchasers between 2014 and 2016, according to the report. The agency also arrested 322 unlicensed dealers, 204 private sellers for transferring guns to disqualified buyers and 53 more for the unlawful interstate transfer of firearms. Nine out of 10 defendants in these cases received a conviction.

 

So, the laws work... :th:

 

No surprise that those willing to break the law, can.

 

That certainly does not bode well for attempts to create new laws, now does it?

New laws (just like those already on the books) will do nothing to prevent the criminal elements from gaining access.

 

How does further restricting gun sales to those who follow the rules impact those who do not?

 

It is idiotic to think more laws will prevent anything more than what is already being prevented. 

Shortsighted and stupid.

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39 mins ago, jkrock said:

The dark web loophole is real

and a black market loophole as well. 

Maybe we need a law for that too. 

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