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Reports - Mueller has Subpeoned trumps DB business Accounts

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20 mins ago, fish'nmagician said:

I don't think he was coerced,

I think both sides were acting in their self interest.

Russia wanted him,

he was willing to take the help

and he signaled just how favorable US Policy would be toward Russia under a Trump regime.

Russia wanted him? If this "loan" would have happened in 2015 or 2016, I may say there is some credibility there. Did Trump even plan or think of running for office in 2009?

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1 min ago, BLT said:

Russia wanted him? If this "loan" would have happened in 2015 or 2016, I may say there is some credibility there. Did Trump even plan or think of running for office in 2009?

 

He's either too stupid to tie his own shoes... or... he's the diabolical master of the long game 

 

Depending on which way the breeze blows evidently 

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1 min ago, BLT said:

Russia wanted him? If this "loan" would have happened in 2015 or 2016, I may say there is some credibility there. Did Trump even plan or think of running for office in 2009?

I'm not running with the same sort of delusions the Uranium One crowd is.

 

I do believe that Trump was getting financed thru Russia.

and it had NOTHING to do with a Presidential run......

 

then he ran,

and Russia had their hooks into him

they knew they had leverage.

so they helped him win,

and he was signaling he'd deliver on his end.

 

what's the status on the sanctions,

as he ever implemented them?

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5 mins ago, fish'nmagician said:

I'm not running with the same sort of delusions the Uranium One crowd is.

 

I do believe that Trump was getting financed thru Russia.

and it had NOTHING to do with a Presidential run......

 

then he ran,

and Russia had their hooks into him

they knew they had leverage.

so they helped him win,

and he was signaling he'd deliver on his end.

 

what's the status on the sanctions,

as he ever implemented them?

So thinking that there was an expected "quid pro quo" at the time of the loan can be ruled out? Or were they expecting some other way of getting it besides him getting POTUS and favors sent their way.

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Just now, BLT said:

So thinking that there was an expected "quid pro quo" at the time of the loan can be ruled out? Or were they expecting some other way of getting it besides him getting POTUS and favors sent their way.

I'm thinking it's suspicious that Trump was getting cash from Russia at a time when the western world was cutting him off.

but it would be pure speculation on my as to what if any crimes were being broken here.

though it does look like money laundering.........

 

Russia has an existing shady relationship with Trump

Trump runs for President,

Russia can damage the US by helping an incompetent get elected,

an added bonus is any dirty dealings they have.

 

They indicate a willingness to help,

Trump tips his hat by pushing for a softening stance against Putin and Russia.

 

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2 mins ago, fish'nmagician said:

I'm thinking it's suspicious that Trump was getting cash from Russia at a time when the western world was cutting him off.

but it would be pure speculation on my as to what if any crimes were being broken here.

though it does look like money laundering.........

 

Russia has an existing shady relationship with Trump

Trump runs for President,

Russia can damage the US by helping an incompetent get elected,

an added bonus is any dirty dealings they have.

 

They indicate a willingness to help,

Trump tips his hat by pushing for a softening stance against Putin and Russia.

 

I misread it, I thought the DB loaned him the money. 

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4 mins ago, BLT said:

I misread it, I thought the DB loaned him the money. 

hard to say where Trump is getting his cash from,

Legit sources in the US seem to have dried up.......

 

I'm sure it will come out.... in time.

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3 mins ago, fish'nmagician said:

I'm thinking it's suspicious that Trump was getting cash from Russia at a time when the western world was cutting him off.

but it would be pure speculation on my as to what if any crimes were being broken here.

though it does look like money laundering.........

 

Russia has an existing shady relationship with Trump

Trump runs for President,

Russia can damage the US by helping an incompetent get elected,

an added bonus is any dirty dealings they have.

 

They indicate a willingness to help,

Trump tips his hat by pushing for a softening stance against Putin and Russia.

 

The best kind of conspiracy theory...  no need to actually have any dot's connect... just structure a narrative to fit events and viola!

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Just now, fish'nmagician said:

hard to say where Trump is getting his cash from,

Legit sources in the US seem to have dried up.......

 

I'm sure it will come out.... in time.

Hard to say?

 

You just said it was Russia :laugh:

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4 mins ago, fish'nmagician said:

hard to say where Trump is getting his cash from,

Legit sources in the US seem to have dried up.......

 

I'm sure it will come out.... in time.

Now, I read a lot of post, but don't jump in on many of them. I always see "don't move the goal post" written. I thought that the 2009 loan to Trump, the DB, and Russia/quid pro quo was where the post were at on this topic. 

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Just now, BLT said:

Now, I read a lot of post, but don't jump in on many of them. I always see "don't move the goal post" written. I thought that the 2009 loan to Trump, the DB, and Russia/quid pro quo was where the post were at on this topic. 

and I am saying I don't know that a singular loan is the problem.

that's my position.

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1 hour ago, BLT said:

I misread it, I thought the DB loaned him the money. 

yes, but they are a private bank not a lender. so its likely someone gave them funds to loan to trump..

 

as the Magician said - that 2009 Loan gave them leverage over trump and still does. hence the putin love in and the opposition to sanctions against someone both the FBI and CIA say interfered in our elections, and the continued attempt to undermine both agencies.

 

think about it - Russia threatens to pull its loans and trump is bankrupt and there goes his whole world. they were the last lender - all previous lenders got burned.

 

the gold thrones, the jet with the fake crest, mar a lago - all sold to pay his debts, Melania back on the streets, and his failing property empire sold at cents on the dollar to the New York old money that he despises.

 

 

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