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VS Line Lay vs VSX

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I have read about line lay issues with the VS series and the work around by spooling line with a hump in the center.  Currently have a VSX 250 for surf and sand. Excellent distance and line lay but considering a smaller VS series for lighter applications. For those who have used both series, will I be disappointed with the VS compared to VSX in casting distance and line lay or is that line lay issue overblown?

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Other than the line lay modification and the drag clicking sound, is the VS and VSX still basically the same reel? I had assumed so, but have heard some various complaints (mostly with the sealing)

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I don't own a VSX but do own & have owned multiple reels in the VS series (150, 200's, 250).  I personally have not considered casting distance & line lay to be issues for me.  To be clear, yes - the line lay on the VS series is not perfect but I never found it to have any adverse affects on reel performance.  I'd be curious to know how the two series perform in a side by side comparison of casting distance with the same rod, line & caster.  My gut tells me that the difference would be negligible.

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From what I understand (and can vouch that it appears to have some substance regarding the smaller 100/150 VS reels), is that while all the reels (meaning the VS series) show evidence of, it was more prone to cause issue on the larger sizes...

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2 hours ago, albacized said:

... it was more prone to cause issue on the larger sizes...

 

When you say "cause issue" on the larger sizes, I'm not sure what you mean.  Yes - the VS's aren't the best at laying line but not sure I'd categorize this as an "issue".  To me, issue = problem and in my experience the uneven line lay, while maybe not aesthetically desirable, isn't functionally problematic.  I think Van Staal did the right thing by improving the line lay with the VSX but I wouldn't hesitate to purchase a VS series - especially since they can be gotten at a considerable discount.

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Thanks for responding with your insight & opinions. The reason I'm micro managing the differences between the VS & VSX is because I was surprised at the long casting distances i am getting with the VSX, nearly the same as a long spooled Ultegra 5500XSB. Didn't expect that and now I'm spoiled. Hopefully I'll run in to someone locally with a 150 in either variety to try out. If not I"ll subscribe to the old adage " Buy once , cry once" and get the VSX. Don't usually need distance casting when fishing ledges and boulders but I like having that option.

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Fair enough & I agree - if you're not going to be 100% happy with the VS then best to spend a few extra bucks to get what you really want. Good luck!

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3 hours ago, Livliner said:

Thanks for responding with your insight & opinions. The reason I'm micro managing the differences between the VS & VSX is because I was surprised at the long casting distances i am getting with the VSX, nearly the same as a long spooled Ultegra 5500XSB. Didn't expect that and now I'm spoiled. Hopefully I'll run in to someone locally with a 150 in either variety to try out. If not I"ll subscribe to the old adage " Buy once , cry once" and get the VSX. Don't usually need distance casting when fishing ledges and boulders but I like having that option.

If you did not notice any difference between the ultegra and VSX then there are two options:

 

1 your casting skills sucks

2 the rod you were using is not a good match to Ultrgra.

 

considering either option, you won't notice any difference between VSX and vs.

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FYI levari the Ultegra was matched with a Shimano Tiralejo 10'6 as promoted by a Shimano rep as a matched combo so I doubt it is the rod. My casting skills are good, and I said nearly as far. The VSX 250 with its large diameter spool is just that good.

 

 

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Define "nearly as good."  What distances are we talking?  

I personally have never had an issue with the regular VS150.  Shop spools it with a hump and it's all good.  Only you can answer how much a couple hundred bucks matters to you.  

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Same line as well? When I used to switch from my vs150 to my Stella 6k I would get a noticable gain. Would imagine that would be significant with longcast so am interested if you have any numbers as well? I never thought that VS were very good casting compared to my Shimano/Daiwa stuff because line kinda balloons off the spool

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