Shipwreck Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 (edited) What say you? Edited July 30, 2017 by EricJ stripedbassking 1 "He's a good stick" - Mr. Miyagi" ~ "Yep!" - Captain Dingo "How are you doing that" - Jimmy the Mate ~ "Shipwreck is one of those guys!" - Capt. Freddy Gamboa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurejunkie00 Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 they kill all of their target species, then move to another. i have no problem with commercial fishing, as long as they use hook and line and have the same minimum size, or larger, than recreational anglers. the by catch from netting is beyond belief. i watched a boat, dragging for fluke, dump back over 50 dead stripers, from 20 to 50 pounds in one pass. i wonder what they do in one day? Wizumz, Tom Angler, secjurny and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needles Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 Time to re-think/ revamp the regulations fd4mcola 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albacized Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 Just now, needles said: Time to re-think/ revamp the regulations ^^^This....the good guys still do it right. Need to clamp down on those who cheat. Also, needs to be regulated from a true species population management perspective, not a $$$$ perspective. Needs to be managed with 'long term' in mind and not knee jerkish (as in the first time the yoy numbers jump, scream 'HORRAY!!!' and open the flood gates) Tom Angler, snag777, camilos_garage and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanStaalSteve Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 Take a look a cod in the Northeast and larger stripers along the shoreline from NJ to Maine.. Try to catch a 30 lb. bass from shore these days. Not an easy as it was 15 years ago? Where are they? We need to change some things. Tom Angler and Carrot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipwreck Posted July 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 Can I go to the store and buy upland Pheasant? How about some nice fresh Wyoming Elk? No? How about huge Ohio deer? Then why can people in those states buy Cod? $ aae0130, snag777, puff tentacle and 3 others 6 "He's a good stick" - Mr. Miyagi" ~ "Yep!" - Captain Dingo "How are you doing that" - Jimmy the Mate ~ "Shipwreck is one of those guys!" - Capt. Freddy Gamboa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogey Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 (edited) Many of the fish they gobble up are now farmed e.g. stripers and there is no doubt that they are too efficient, soon there will be nothing left. Maybe part of the fix is to cease issuing new commercial licenses, except for hook and line, that way those in the business will gradually go away. Edited July 29, 2017 by Bogey snag777 and Tom Angler 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipwreck Posted July 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 If it cant be husbanded, it should not be fished. You cannot keep taking mountains of COD without putting something back. Example, the logging industry, cows, corn, tilapia, shrimp. Leave the Tuna, Fluke, Cod, Snapper, Elk, Moose, Bear and on and on, alone. If you can catch it, keep it. If you cannot, it is not for you. Tom Angler, snag777 and aae0130 3 "He's a good stick" - Mr. Miyagi" ~ "Yep!" - Captain Dingo "How are you doing that" - Jimmy the Mate ~ "Shipwreck is one of those guys!" - Capt. Freddy Gamboa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve in Mass Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 Make tracts of ocean private property, just like land, and the issue goes away. Slack Tidings 1 "You know the Bill of Rights is serving its purpose when it protects things you wish it didn't." "You can no longer be oppressed if you are not afraid anymore - Unknown" SOL Member #174 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve in Mass Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 Tilapia? Slack Tidings 1 "You know the Bill of Rights is serving its purpose when it protects things you wish it didn't." "You can no longer be oppressed if you are not afraid anymore - Unknown" SOL Member #174 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipwreck Posted July 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 33 minutes ago, Steve in Mass said: Tilapia? Yup farmed fish are gross. And if you make the ocean private property the big corps will buy it up and we will never fish again. No nets, no longlines. puff tentacle, snag777 and aae0130 3 "He's a good stick" - Mr. Miyagi" ~ "Yep!" - Captain Dingo "How are you doing that" - Jimmy the Mate ~ "Shipwreck is one of those guys!" - Capt. Freddy Gamboa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipwreck Posted July 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 And yes I know this will affect thousands of families. Just like EZ Pass took thousands of families jobs away. Things change. Sucks, but it is what it is. They are depleting a statistically proven finite biomass and raping it giving nothing back. Its over. wrboz, snag777, aae0130 and 2 others 5 "He's a good stick" - Mr. Miyagi" ~ "Yep!" - Captain Dingo "How are you doing that" - Jimmy the Mate ~ "Shipwreck is one of those guys!" - Capt. Freddy Gamboa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captahab416 Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 Out rate of consumption is unparelled and far exceeds what nature can produce. Regulations are also incredibly difficult to enforce in an effective manner. Pollution only compounds the issue. I think the end of commercial fishing is probably a lot closer than most people care to think for some species. I really wonder how much longer there will be a viable tuna fishery? Carrot and aae0130 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Wagen Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 1 hour ago, lurejunkie00 said: they kill all of their target species, then move to another. i have no problem with commercial fishing, as long as they use hook and line and have the same minimum size, or larger, than recreational anglers. the by catch from netting is beyond belief. i watched a boat, dragging for fluke, dump back over 50 dead stripers, from 20 to 50 pounds in one pass. i wonder what they do in one day? This is a BIG PROBLEM! fd4mcola 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glos Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 I wouldn't allow them to dump anything species that they don't want and similar catastrophic to see what amounts of perfectly good food gets killed and tossed just because........ stupidity, cretinism same as those hunters that kill moose and than just take the horns or head mf aae0130 and fd4mcola 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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