Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0
Shipwreck

Trump and Fishing

Rate this topic

80 posts in this topic

Hmmm.  Should the government step in and dismiss fisheries recommendations?  Are the rules broken and T Rump is just fixing them.  Is this I have a pen and phone and I am going to shove it up your dupa?  

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/07/25/trump-administration-roils-regional-waters-with-unprecedented-decision/3Taqg1zIq71BUselhHux1N/story.html?s_campaign=breakingnews:newsletter#comments

"The Trump administration, in an unprecedented decision, has rejected the recommendation of a commission that has long overseen fishing issues along the East Coast, raising deep concerns about political meddling in the ongoing preservation of fragile stocks from Maine to Florida.

More specifically, the decision by Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross has stirred worries about the consequences for summer flounder, one of the most fished species in the Northeast. The decline of summer flounder could have a wider impact across the region’s marine ecosystem.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Is summer flounder in decline?  That is probably me and Spigola's doing.  :)

 

Is the admin, trying to boost commercial fishing and charter/headboat fishing fleets??  They should do more about opening up the Black Sea Bass fishery.

fluke72415.png

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

No Trump's admin sided on the Rec angler's side.

I am from Jersey, very familar with the fluke situation, and I support this wholeheartedly.  NOAA has been infected with activist appointees and is advocating for the comms while trying to END recreational fishing.

Think Piping Plover.  You think Jane Lubchenko could pick that bird out of a lineup?  Think she cares.

 

lol

 

russia

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 minutes ago, patchyfog said:

I gotta hear what NJ guys think, it's about them...

The question mark on the OP came back in the coolers after yesterday's Rooners trip.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, Shipwreck said:

How did they do?

 

40 keeper Fluke, 30 Black Sea Bass

Photos showed very healthy looking fish

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Shipwreck said:

 NOAA has been infected with activist appointees and is advocating for the comms while trying to END recreational fishing.

Think Piping Plover.  You think Jane Lubchenko could pick that bird out of a lineup?  Think she cares.

 

lol

 

russia

Just help me understand a little more, it's not my state, and I know nothing about the fluke fishery down there. I think every rec angler feels, with bigly justification, that the Council favors comms over recs. But what do comms have to do with this decision? I thought it was about rec size and bag limits and seasons.

And let's not conflate this with piping lovers.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The council has always seemed to have its head up its ass on fluke.  They tinker with the bag limit and season every single year.  They treat the crappy data that they pick up by phone surveys and by putting some guy on a party boat a few times a season like it is gold.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I never understood why they protect the abundant smaller fish, and leave the big breeder fih to be slaughtered.

I would have a maximum size limit, or a slot limit, and a number of fish bag limit.

Lood how the Redfishaka Red Drum stocks rebounded with a slot limit.

It gives tha anglers trophys to C&R, yet allows them some fish to bring home to the table.

And not just for Fluke, but just about any game fish.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, dena said:

I never understood why they protect the abundant smaller fish, and leave the big breeder fish to be slaughtered.

I would have a maximum size limit, or a slot limit, and a number of fish bag limit.

Lood how the Redfish aka Red Drum stocks rebounded with a slot limit.

It gives tha anglers trophys to C&R, yet allows them some fish to bring home to the table.

And not just for Fluke, but just about any game fish.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

What Dena proposes is sound commonsense supported by practical science.

Regrettfully these commissions are stacked with decision makers bound by their own ideology and beholden to their sponsors.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
20 hours ago, zybathegeek said:

What Dena proposes is sound commonsense supported by practical science.

Regrettfully these commissions are stacked with decision makers bound by their own ideology and beholden to their sponsors.

 

Sponsors, you mean big Comm money, correct? The science is flawed. 

Patcy gets his panties twisted inre NJ fisherman because "it's about us". Laughable! The data is incorrect. And has been since they started accumulating it. It's widely believed(me included)that NJ possesses 2 different fluke fisheries. One in the north, above LBI and one below. The northern fishery has a much higher concentration of larger fluke then the southern, where I fish. We catch big ones here, just not in the concentration of the north. This is why some have argued that NJ shouldn't be lumped in with NY, Conn, RI, and Mass. Personally, I don't care who we're lumped in with. I catch fish to eat them, not just to say I caught a limit. 

 

Solution:

 As Dena has stated stop killing the breeders . I'd set these limits;

Slot fish, 4 fish 16-18". Allow 1 trophy, over 25" per year ala BF tuna and call it a day. Up and down the coast. This way it's Obamas favorite word, FAIR. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
21 hours ago, dena said:

I never understood why they protect the abundant smaller fish, and leave the big breeder fih to be slaughtered.

I would have a maximum size limit, or a slot limit, and a number of fish bag limit.

Lood how the Redfishaka Red Drum stocks rebounded with a slot limit.

It gives tha anglers trophys to C&R, yet allows them some fish to bring home to the table.

And not just for Fluke, but just about any game fish.

 

I support this.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
21 hours ago, dena said:

I never understood why they protect the abundant smaller fish, and leave the big breeder fih to be slaughtered.

I would have a maximum size limit, or a slot limit, and a number of fish bag limit.

Lood how the Redfishaka Red Drum stocks rebounded with a slot limit.

It gives tha anglers trophys to C&R, yet allows them some fish to bring home to the table.

And not just for Fluke, but just about any game fish.

This is good management. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to register here in order to participate.

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.