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Scaramucci vs. Priebus

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OK, so the Mooch has gone over Priebus with a tire iron.  Add Priebus to the list of people who may be drifting into Presidential disfavor.

What's the consensus here? Priebus has been in politics a long time, mostly AFAIK in the personnel management end. I remember him warning Republicans to get on the Trump bandwagon without delay after the primary; he wasn't as early a supporter as Sessions, but he did his organizational duty.  BUT there's a lot of distaste here for anyone who has been in politics or D.C. for more then fifteen minutes ahead of President Trump.  Is Priebus a part of the swamp, or is he an unfairly maligned administrator?

In other unhappiness news,

1) SoS Tillerson is said to be unhappy with the President, for reasons not clearly stated (at least within my hearing.) He has no prior background in politics, save for approving payments made to ExxonMobil's K Street lobbyists. He has a lot of experience dealing with Putin and Russia, and with various Presidents, Prime Ministers, and state-controlled entities elsewhere.  HOWEVER he does believe that global warming is real and a problem, which is anathema to many posters here. Should he go?

2) NSA McMaster is said to be unhappy because Steve Bannon is managing to marginalize him. That implies Presidential consent to the marginalization. McMaster's appointment came, after Gen. Flynn's appointment and departure, to wide applause - but maybe the President doesn't like what he's being told. A plan to address Afghanistan is apparently sitting in limbo, the President having declined to decide what he wants to do, and it's a plan from McMaster and Mattis.  

Should McMaster go? Is he a swamper?

3) Bannon himself came in for some fire from the Mooch too, the reference being one that the autocensor would block me from quoting. What say the President's supporters here?  

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Certainly seems to be putting a big bulls eye on his back that many are going to be gunning for.

With Trump you never know when favored person status will be pulled and the dogs will have a feast an his sorry carcass.

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Someone recently summed up Scaramucci  nicely... "Who hasn't done a ton of blow and thought, "I should call the New Yorker right now!!"."

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Priebus needs to go, it was a mistake bringing him on.

Liberals will throw a party the day Bannon goes down.

Scaramucci is a lib, so this should make them happy.

He just pulled such a puzzzzzy ass move by saying he shouldn't have "trusted a reporter "

Whaaat?

Is Trumps new comm director really that ******* stupid?

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Chief of Staff is a difficult gig. It might be difficult to find a replacement if Priebus is kicked out. I infer that Wigeon at least sees him as a part of the Establishment.  Wigeon, fair? 

Bannon is a liberal boogeyman, but as long as he doesn't appear to be competing with the President for attention, I think the President will continue to like him. President Trump isn't a real conservative (IMHO; YMMV) and neither is Bannon. They are both bomb throwers. Whatever the old order is, they're against it, and not too much worried about replacing an old anything with a new anything. 

Scaramucci's sheer belligerence, his New York in-your-face vibe, is probably what appeals to the President. I wonder how long he can stay when opening fire on damn-near everyone else in the White House. Was he pushed by Donald JR., Jared and Ivanka? The sheer attention he's attracting will annoy President Trump at some point.

Scaramucci didn't open fire on Tillerson, AFAIK. If Tillerson has a beef, it's probably with chaos. He's tired of reassuring allies that whatever the President tweeted last night at 2:00 a.m. isn't really American policy. I don't think he or any other Fortune 500 CEO would indulge a subordinate in this behavior, and he's not used to being treated in this fashion. 

The President is in a strange position vis-a-vis the military.  During the campaign his rhetoric was mildly contemptuous of them. He knew more about ISIS then all the generals. He had a secret plan to destroy ISIS. He was mildly derisive of McCain for being captured, and dismissive of the Khan family for losing their son in service. On arriving in office, he surrounded himself with military men, at least in public. McMaster was lauded in public after Flynn left.  I wonder, though, if the President isn't tired of having the details and ramifications of some of his tweets being explained to him, and both Tillerson and McMaster will have had to do a lot of that. 

 

 

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We need to list all these characters, with odds of them being gone by Dec 31. If only we could play with real money and have exacta trifecta etc. 

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34 minutes ago, BrianBM said:

Chief of Staff is a difficult gig. It might be difficult to find a replacement if Priebus is kicked out. I infer that Wigeon at least sees him as a part of the Establishment.  Wigeon, fair? 

Bannon is a liberal boogeyman, but as long as he doesn't appear to be competing with the President for attention, I think the President will continue to like him. President Trump isn't a real conservative (IMHO; YMMV) and neither is Bannon. They are both bomb throwers. Whatever the old order is, they're against it, and not too much worried about replacing an old anything with a new anything. 

Scaramucci's sheer belligerence, his New York in-your-face vibe, is probably what appeals to the President. I wonder how long he can stay when opening fire on damn-near everyone else in the White House. Was he pushed by Donald JR., Jared and Ivanka? The sheer attention he's attracting will annoy President Trump at some point.

Scaramucci didn't open fire on Tillerson, AFAIK. If Tillerson has a beef, it's probably with chaos. He's tired of reassuring allies that whatever the President tweeted last night at 2:00 a.m. isn't really American policy. I don't think he or any other Fortune 500 CEO would indulge a subordinate in this behavior, and he's not used to being treated in this fashion. 

The President is in a strange position vis-a-vis the military.  During the campaign his rhetoric was mildly contemptuous of them. He knew more about ISIS then all the generals. He had a secret plan to destroy ISIS. He was mildly derisive of McCain for being captured, and dismissive of the Khan family for losing their son in service. On arriving in office, he surrounded himself with military men, at least in public. McMaster was lauded in public after Flynn left.  I wonder, though, if the President isn't tired of having the details and ramifications of some of his tweets being explained to him, and both Tillerson and McMaster will have had to do a lot of that. 

 

 

Yes. 

I believe that Pence sold Trump on Priebus as the CoS in the hopes that he would be a conduit to the establishment R's in congress.

Obviously he has failed miserably along those lines and I think Trump has now written him off and has brought Scaramucci in for the throat cutting, which is what we're seeing now.

Dont know what to make of Scaramucci at this point, all we know is that he is a NYC style liberal like Trump.

So far I'm less than impressed with his twitter abilities and tonight's revelation that he thought he could speak to a reporter, as DJT's comm director, "off the record" frankly scares the **** out of me.

That, if true, is just frightenly stupid.

 

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the lack of professionalism being displayed in a total disgrace and should not be tolerated-I dont care if you are a dem a rep or an indy-nobody should think this is remotely acceptable.

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Tillerson's beef is that he understands the value of a competent State Department. Exxon Corporation does business all over the world and the State department provides considerable support.

 He became the head of Exxon because he is extremely good at  putting people in place to accomplish objectives. He knows his strength and made it clear he needed the freedom to exercise it. Not only has that noty happened, he has had other members of the Administration speaking over and around him, which confuses the objectives. 

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9 hours ago, Wigeon said:

Yes. 

I believe that Pence sold Trump on Priebus as the CoS in the hopes that he would be a conduit to the establishment R's in congress.

Obviously he has failed miserably along those lines and I think Trump has now written him off and has brought Scaramucci in for the throat cutting, which is what we're seeing now.

Dont know what to make of Scaramucci at this point, all we know is that he is a NYC style liberal like Trump.

So far I'm less than impressed with his twitter abilities and tonight's revelation that he thought he could speak to a reporter, as DJT's comm director, "off the record" frankly scares the **** out of me.

That, if true, is just frightenly stupid.

 

A liberal.  Campaigned against Mexicans (rapists and drug dealers!).  Loathes Obamacare.  Wants a new round of protectionist legislation.  Picked his first Supreme Court pick to be another Scalia.

This is a liberal? No.  He may be a lousy organizer, he may not have the personal skill set needed to be effective in the White House, but he is closer to conservatism then to any other discernable political philosophy, even though I agree that he's not a "true" conservative.

 

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