CaryGreene

Metal, from Tins to Jigs to Casting Spoons- Everything You Need to Know

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36 mins ago, yogiiiboy said:

How do you use these type of bucktails?

Man o man!  I'd love to have one of those BTs when squidlies are around!!!

 

I'm keen to hear what Beachglass Guru has to say about how he fished them, but up here (SE MA and Cape Cod) I envision casting it out and holding it in current.  With enough current, I'd back-swim it, hold it, let it drop back more, hold it, ad infinitum (or until I was getting low on braid), then retrieve it a yard or two at a time, letting it sit before bringing it in for the next yard or two.  

 

Beachglass, can you share with us who makes that BT and/or where one might purchase it?

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10 hours ago, Southcoastphil said:

Oh, sheet!  I had not considered pop rivets.  DUH. (I only use them every week for gutter work.)  I'll look for bigger pop rivets than we use for gutter work.  Once the rivet is "formed" it is a simple matter to drill out the shank.

 

To Dan, 

It seems like I could flare the eyelets with the appropriate (=fat, tapered) punch?  (This is separate from rivets.)

 

9 hours ago, Southcoastphil said:

Dan,

5/32" is pretty close to the 3/16" that you use.

 

This bears more investigation on my part, no doubt.

 

Sheesh, we might be onto something here!!!!

 

 

My thinking was to knock the stem out first and use the body like a eyelet, flaring the blank end without forming the rivet as such.  However, what you suggested may work.  Only trial and error will prove which is better.  One of the purposes is to provide a nice clean, smooth hole to attach a split ring or snap.  

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On 9/8/2018 at 9:28 PM, CaryGreene said:

The more we think we know, the more we realize how much there is still to learn.  

 

I am often reminded that the school of hard knocks is a great way to learn & what really matters is kindness to others & willingness to share. This is what makes our sport great.

Cary......this is what makes this THREAD great !!  

 

I've always loved tins......but i think you've woken up alot of surfcasters to this subject matter.......

 

Great job my friend !!

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On 9/30/2018 at 0:54 PM, Southcoastphil said:

For those of you who fish these keeled tins, and with a single hook, do you orient the hook point up or down?  I've always gone with up, but hope to learn the pros/cons of either approach.

Yes Phil......Keel facing down warrants the hook facing up on the opposite side.  I found that this allows the hook free of snags when working the tin near the bottom due to that hook facing up away from the sand and/or vegetation........:th:

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On 10/8/2018 at 0:25 PM, yogiiiboy said:

Cary......this is what makes this THREAD great !!  

 

I've always loved tins......but i think you've woken up alot of surfcasters to this subject matter.......

 

Great job my friend !!

Absolutely true buddy. No sooner then you lost your dog, my father passed away. Sorry for the delay in response. 

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5 hours ago, CaryGreene said:

Absolutely true buddy. No sooner then you lost your dog, my father passed away. Sorry for the delay in response. 

Very sorry for your loss my friend. 

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11 hours ago, CaryGreene said:

Absolutely true buddy. No sooner then you lost your dog, my father passed away. Sorry for the delay in response. 

Condolences to you and your family.  

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On 10/14/2018 at 0:10 AM, CaryGreene said:

Thank you Phil. I lost my mother back in March of this year so I guess I get to find out what I'm made of from here on out!

Yes.  Like it or not, it doesn't matter what has happened, for that cannot be changed.

 

As trite as it sounds, the truth is (for all of us) that we make choices as to how we respond.

 

I lost my dad decades ago, and to this day, he is rarely far from my thoughts.

 

I am blessed that my Mom remains in good health and is feisty as ever at 84.  Today is her birthday, so Happy Birthday, Mom!!!

 

 

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18 hours ago, Southcoastphil said:

Yes.  Like it or not, it doesn't matter what has happened, for that cannot be changed.

 

As trite as it sounds, the truth is (for all of us) that we make choices as to how we respond.

 

I lost my dad decades ago, and to this day, he is rarely far from my thoughts.

 

I am blessed that my Mom remains in good health and is feisty as ever at 84.  Today is her birthday, so Happy Birthday, Mom!!!

 

 

Truer words have never been spoken Phil.............Hope all is well, my friend.

 

 

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22 hours ago, yogiiiboy said:

Truer words have never been spoken Phil.............Hope all is well, my friend.

 

 

All is reasonably well here, mate.  How are things with you in NJ?

 

Any forecasts for November fishing down there?

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1 hour ago, Southcoastphil said:

All is reasonably well here, mate.  How are things with you in NJ?

 

Any forecasts for November fishing down there?

Residents here............the run hasn't really begun.......water temps are averaging 69 degrees or so..............

 

I fish your Micky F-14's heavy with teasers 3 feet ahead of them..........Deadly Phil !!

 

I think of you often when i'm firing that metal to China..........Thanks again for your generosity Phil, really appreciated that kind gesture.

 

 

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Those tins sail like they're not even connected to line at times, don't they?

 

I'm happy that you're using them and enjoying them.  

 

Waters temps up here range from 62/64 down to mid 50s, depending on the time of day.  

 

I'll hit the ditch in the AM for a few casts and to wish a good friend a successful trip to Montauk.  After that, I think that I'll spend some time in RI during the end of this month. 

 

If I get too cranky come November, I might have to hit either NJ or FL Keys. 

 

I've successfully used metals in NJ late-season, notably 4" and 5' krocodile spoons when herring were present, so I think that I'm still on-topic!

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On 10/16/2018 at 9:39 PM, Southcoastphil said:

Yes.  Like it or not, it doesn't matter what has happened, for that cannot be changed.

 

As trite as it sounds, the truth is (for all of us) that we make choices as to how we respond.

 

I lost my dad decades ago, and to this day, he is rarely far from my thoughts.

 

I am blessed that my Mom remains in good health and is feisty as ever at 84.  Today is her birthday, so Happy Birthday, Mom!!!

 

 

Thank you Phil & happy Birthday to your mom from me! 

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