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"With reasonable men, I will reason; with humane men I will plead; but to tyrants I will give no quarter, nor waste arguments where they will certainly be lost." - William Lloyd Garrison

 

 

"Pope Francis has officially demoted Cardinal Raymond Burke, a prominent American Cardinal who has been highly critical of the pontiff’s increasingly progressive tone when discussing issues such as homosexuality and abortion.

 

Burke, who made waves in 2004 for saying that voting for a pro-choice candidate is “a serious sin,” has been an unusually outspoken detractor of Pope Francis since he ascended to the papacy in 2013. When the pontiff declared last year that the Catholic church was too “obsessed” with culture war issues such as abortion, for instance, Burke responded by saying that the church “can never talk enough” about the “massacre of the unborn.” And while Francis answered a question about gay priests by saying “who am I to judge?” last July, Burke told LifeSiteNews in October that homosexual acts are “always and everywhere wrong, evil.”

 

But on Saturday, the Vatican announced that Burke, who was elevated to Cardinal by Pope Benedict XVI, has been removed from his influential position as head of the Apostolic Signatura — the Vatican’s highest court — and reassigned to a largely ceremonial role as the Patron of the Order of the Knights of Malta.

 

“The position of Patron of the the Order of Malta is usually given to a retired cardinal, or as a second task to an active cardinal,” Michael Sean Winters, a prominent Catholic journalist, wrote in the National Catholic Reporter. “It has almost no responsibilities. The demotion is unprecedented, and completely warranted: Cardinal Burke’s influence at the Vatican has been crushingly backward looking, and that influence has resulted in some unhappy appointments.”

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Maybe the next hard one to deal with is whether Catholic adolescents deserve hell. if they masturbate.  

 

Took you a long time to step up and support ding a lings question. Does your hesitation involve the act you are so concerned about?

 

The legs on this thread will be hard to grow. The nipper is weaker and weaker. i do believe his time is is growing short.

 

Dominus vo Biscum, Nipper. You are in my prayers. inthered, you are not. :rav:

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Took you a long time to step up and support ding a lings question. Does your hesitation involve the act you are so concerned about?

 

The legs on this thread will be hard to grow. The nipper is weaker and weaker. i do believe his time is is growing short.

 

Dominus vo Biscum, Nipper. You are in my prayers. inthered, you are not. :rav:

 

PS: Catholic adolescents who masturbate have the option of confession to be absolved from their sins. No shock or awe in you assumption, buddy.

 

Just a simple, "Father, forgive me i have Sinned" and a small penance of a few Hail Mary's will put the youngster back on the right tract.

 

Jesus loves us and the Sacrement of Confession is one of the ways he proves it.

 

:kiss: Pax Vo Biscum the Kiss of Peace is upon your ravaged soul. :naughty:

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You'll probably start probably praying—that I go to hell.  I confess: I have wealth envy and the most important thing to me in this life is redistribute wealth baby, redistribute wealth.    :laugh: 


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Took you a long time to step up and support ding a lings question. Does your hesitation involve the act you are so concerned about?

 

The legs on this thread will be hard to grow. The nipper is weaker and weaker. i do believe his time is is growing short.

 

Dominus vo Biscum, Nipper. You are in my prayers. inthered, you are not. :rav:

 

PS: Catholic adolescents who masturbate have the option of confession to be absolved from their sins. No shock or awe in you assumption, buddy.

 

Just a simple, "Father, forgive me i have Sinned" and a small penance of a few Hail Mary's will put the youngster back on the right tract.

 

Jesus loves us and the Sacrement of Confession is one of the ways he proves it.

 

:kiss: Pax Vo Biscum the Kiss of Peace is upon your ravaged soul. :naughty:

Oh my goodness I sometimes don't think humanity is progressing forward at all. A few mumbled words to entities that don't exist will set kids straight on sexuality?

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Pope is doing some good. Now just admit its a philosophy not a religion, there is no evidence of heaven, hell God or the devil, there are no miracles we would have a start. Allow women full rights in the new philosophical society that emerges, invest all their hoarded wealth across the world in social and educational endeavors, and apologize for centuries of mental and physical anguish perpetrated on children for the sole purpose of indoctrination into their cult and indulgence in their repressed perversions. There you go, my roadmap for Francis going forward. Good luck!

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Took you a long time to step up and support ding a lings question. Does your hesitation involve the act you are so concerned about?

 

The legs on this thread will be hard to grow. The nipper is weaker and weaker. i do believe his time is is growing short.

 

Dominus vo Biscum, Nipper. You are in my prayers. inthered, you are not. :rav:

 

PS: Catholic adolescents who masturbate have the option of confession to be absolved from their sins. No shock or awe in you assumption, buddy.

 

Just a simple, "Father, forgive me i have Sinned" and a small penance of a few Hail Mary's will put the youngster back on the right tract.

 

Jesus loves us and the Sacrement of Confession is one of the ways he proves it.

 

:kiss: Pax Vo Biscum the Kiss of Peace is upon your ravaged soul. :naughty:

There is so much absurdity in this post it takes more than one reply to cover it. "Confession proves he loves us"? WHAT!? Read some Hitchens, think on the nature of the master / slave relationship and how you are made to both love and fear your father figure simultaneously. Do you want to be a slave to the proxy minions of an imaginary being?

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There is so much absurdity in this post it takes more than one reply to cover it. "Confession proves he loves us"? WHAT!? Read some Hitchens, think on the nature of the master / slave relationship and how you are made to both love and fear your father figure simultaneously. Do you want to be a slave to the proxy minions of an imaginary being?

 

You are quick Jack. "Absurdity" was exactly the tone I picked to make my point. Picking a job adjustment by the new broom in the Vatican as something to crow about is absurd. With all the evil in the world and all the mistakes made by the Democrat Party this is the best he can do to set up a detraction.

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Pope is doing some good. Now just admit its a philosophy not a religion, there is no evidence of heaven, hell God or the devil, there are no miracles we would have a start. Allow women full rights in the new philosophical society that emerges, invest all their hoarded wealth across the world in social and educational endeavors, and apologize for centuries of mental and physical anguish perpetrated on children for the sole purpose of indoctrination into their cult and indulgence in their repressed perversions. There you go, my roadmap for Francis going forward. Good luck!

 

Comparing the current Catholic Church to what happened centuries ago and not mentioning the Spanish Inquesition was a big mistake.

 

The Whaabbi Madras's that are turning out religious assassins by the thousands our time needs to be focused on. Not what Sister Mary Holy Card supposedly forced into tidy RC Kids minds in the first 8 grads of a good Catholic education at St. Bingo's.

 

The capture and rape of thousands of Muslim and Christian girls and the selling of them into slavery is going on this minute. Babbling about centuries of mental and physical anquish in the Church is pure BS when half the world is getting ready to explode. I don't see him or you getting upset with what is happening in the lands ISIL is rampaging through.

 

Don't preach to me about my church, and ignore the more brutal, modern mess going on in the Mideast.

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Comparing the current Catholic Church to what happened centuries ago and not mentioning the Islamic Facist perversion that is happening now pisses me off...

 

Whaabbi Madras's are turning out religious assassins by the thousands now. That needs to be focused on. Not what Sister Mary Holy Card supposedly forced into tidy RC Kids minds in the first 8 grades of a good Catholic education at St. Bingo's.

 

The capture and rape of thousands of Muslim and Christian girls and the selling of them into slavery is going on this minute. Babbling about centuries of mental and physical anquish in the Church is pure BS when half the world is getting ready to explode. I don't see him or you getting upset with what is happening in the lands ISIL is rampaging through.

 

Don't preach to me about my church, and ignore the more brutal, modern mess going on in the Mideast.

My time in St. Nicholas of Tolentine in the 1940's gave me a great foundation to build my life on. No brutality occurred that I remember. A crowded classroom in the years after WWII that was run by The Sisters of Charity was a good time in my life. Altar Boy, learning the Latin Mass, you betcha. We where kept busy learning the 3 "R's".

 

Liberals think they can denigrate the Church because they can't stand religion. They give lip service to the Baptist's while screwing black America year after bloody year. Keeping them on the Plantation the new Black Senator from SC calls it. They double hate Supreme Court Justice Thomas because he is a Black Catholic and a Conservative. Obama trying to force the Christian Church's to pay for abortions and contraceptive pills didn't get very far, did it? Justice Roberts is a Catholic. In fact there are 3 Catholics on the Supreme Court. It must really bother those anti-religious socialists that hold sway in a large portion of the Democrat Party. All the decent, moderate Democrats have been flushed out of national politics by the Clinton's and Obama's lack of leadership in the 2010 and 2014 mid terms. Most elected Dems are Radicals. Believers in lying to the rest of us, because we are too stupid to understand the good they are trying to do for us. Can you say Obama Care, passed by legislative slight of hand. Not a single Republican vote of yes was cast for this lie filled piece of buracratic ****e.

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My time in St. Nicholas of Tolentine in the 1940's gave me a great foundation to build my life on. No brutality occurred that I remember. A crowded classroom in the years after WWII that was run by The Sisters of Charity was a good time in my life. Alter Boy, learning the Latin Mass, you betcha. We where kept busy learning the 3 "R's".

 

Liberals think they can denigrate the Church because they can't stand religion. They give lip service to the Baptist's while screwing black America year after bloody year. Keeping them on the Plantation the new Black Senator from SC calls it. They double hate Supreme Court Justice Thomas because he is a Black Catholic and a Conservative. Obama trying to force the Christian Church's to pay for abortions and contraceptive pills didn't get very far, did it? Justice Roberts is a Catholic. In fact there are 3 Catholics on the Supreme Court. It must really bother those anti-religious socialists that hold sway in a large portion of the Democrat Party. All the decent, moderate Democrats have been flushed out of national politics by the Clinton's and Obama's lack of leadership in the 2010 and 2014 mid terms. Most elected Dems are Radicals. Believers in lying to the rest of us, because we are too stupid to understand the good they are trying to do for us. Can you say Obama Care, passed by legislative slight of hand. Not a single Republican vote of yes was cast for this lie filled piece of buracratic ****e.

 

 

Bob, don't know what he said but, good answer. I also had 75 boys in all my classes in the 50s, working class Irish, Italian and Polish kids who would punch your lights out as quick as looking at you. And one little nun to maintain order and actually try to teach us smelly animals the three Rs which they did very well, BTW. Same in H.S. with the priests and brothers who taught me. I don't begrudge them the discipline or the sore knuckles or getting wacked when I deserved it.

 

As to this Pope, things will shake out. I think he means well and will guide the church as best he can. He leans left but his problem is, at least in the USA, most of the church goers are conservative. If he tries to push too hard, he will send the RC down the path of the Episcopalians who have all but disappeared in the USA.

 

BTW, nitwit, since you seem so approving of "Father Rocky" are you planning to become a member of the RC Church? I'm sure guys like you and ITR are so approving that you can't wait to join. You are becoming an RC, right? Answer please.

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But but but Islam...

Ridiculous. One suggestion: study Ireland

 

I did jack. When the Celtic Tiger was roaring. A sweet time in the first decade of this century. I'd appreciate how you think the Irish are doing now.

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