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It would be nice if Republicans would admit that the death panels was a lie,



and that it's stupid to claim that Obama Care is bad because it puts a third party between a person and their health care provider, as if ANY insurance doesn't do that.


maybe they could have an honest debate on it,



and discuss the merits and shortcomings......


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It would be nice if Republicans would admit that the death panels was a lie,

and that it's stupid to claim that Obama Care is bad because it puts a third party between a person and their health care provider, as if ANY insurance doesn't do that.

 

maybe they could have an honest debate on it,

and discuss the merits and shortcomings......

 

It's clear you don't understand where the 'Death Panel' label came from - it has everything to do with the fact that doctors are facing more limited options to various treatment therapies (at least of which insurance plans will pay for under the obamacare act - if someone wants to pay through the nose out of pocket, then sure - it's all still there)

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Originally Posted by fish'nmagician View Post

 

It would be nice if Republicans would admit that the death panels was a lie,



and that it's stupid to claim that Obama Care is bad because it puts a third party between a person and their health care provider, as if ANY insurance doesn't do that.


maybe they could have an honest debate on it,



and discuss the merits and shortcomings......





Insurance companies do not have judges, cops, and jails.


Restricts liberty, goes against the founding of the USA as a nation couched in individual freedom.


Done.  Anything else I can help you with?


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It's clear you don't understand where the 'Death Panel' label came from - 



of course I do,



it came from fear mongering.


every insurance company that exists makes decisions as to whether procedures will be covered.



pretending "death panels" are part of Obamacare is just nonsense meant to fire up the stupid.


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The speculation on death panels had zero effect on the law getting passed. The lies from the President of the United States had a tremendous effect on getting the law passed.

 

But you got your priorities straight. You are a good team player Magish

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But you got your priorities straight. You are a good team player Magish



my priorities are honesty,



I prefer BOTH sides be honest.


I won't say Republicans started lying about it being bad,



so Obama had to lie to reassure people,



that is stupid,


lies are lies and I wish politics was debated honestly.


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my priorities are honesty,

I prefer BOTH sides be honest.

 

I won't say Republicans started lying about it being bad,

so Obama had to lie to reassure people,

that is stupid,

 

lies are lies and I wish politics was debated honestly.

 

Actually, your side was brutally honest in the Obamacare debate.

 

They said you can go along with what we want or we will pass it without your help. :dismay:

 

Happy now?

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I think if you want to be VERY honest,

you will admit that the GOP's strategy has been to be uncooperative while claiming that Obama lied when he said he would change the political climate.

 

I think if you want to be VERY honest you will admit the the Democrats had absolutely no intention of working with the Republicans on the crafting of ACA.

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I think if you want to be VERY honest you will admit the the Democrats had absolutely no intention of working with the Republicans on the crafting of ACA.

 

Good luck with that. Of all these, people, on the left, about the only honest admission of that you're likely to get is from Mully.

 

The truth is, when the Dems held the congress they had absolutely no intention of doing anything but mow down the opposition. Unfortunately for them they did so with such bad government that they lost the House, then got killed again and lost the Senate.

 

How's that nuclear option looking now?

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I think if you want to be VERY honest you will admit the the Democrats had absolutely no intention of working with the Republicans on the crafting of ACA.



I don't know if that's true or not,



I do know the GOP leadership was pretty open about their intentions on being obstructionist.


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I don't know if that's true or not,

I do know the GOP leadership was pretty open about their intentions on being obstructionist.

 

I'd be the same way if someone was going to bypass me on an important topic I should've been part of

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