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Just by show of hands.... anyone else still drinking the IRS Kool-Aid?

 

 

IRS says it hasn't searched 'other sources' for missing Lerner emails

 

Attorneys for the IRS have told a federal court that they have not searched various “other sources” for the missing emails of former agency official Lois Lerner, claiming that doing so would be fruitless.

 

The attorneys made the assertions in a court filing last month as part of a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit over the missing emails that was filed by the conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch. The IRS has said that potentially thousands of emails belonging to Lerner, a central figure in the agency’s targeting of conservative groups, were lost in a hard drive crash in 2011.

 

Judicial Watch has asserted that the IRS could recover the missing emails by various alternative means, such as searching the agency’s disaster recovery tapes, searching agency servers and searching a “government-wide backup system”

 

In response, the IRS said that it did not search the agency’s servers for the emails because it determined doing so “would not result in the recovery of any information.” In addition, the IRS said did not search the agency’s disaster recovery tapes because the tapes are reused or destroyed every six months, therefore rendering them useless in the hunt for Lerner’s emails from or before 2011.

 

In response to Judicial Watch’s claims that the emails should be available on a “government-wide backup system,” the agency argued that no such system exists.

 

The IRS said it had not submitted to the court declarations about “any of the foregoing items because it had no reason to believe that they were sources from which to recover information lost as a result of Lerner’s hard drive failure.”

 

Judicial Watch said in a statement Wednesday that its attorneys have determined that the IRS "did not undertake any significant efforts to obtain the emails."

 

“The Obama IRS couldn’t care less about the federal court’s orders to provide full information about the 'missing’ Lois Lerner emails,” Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said in a statement. “Instead, the IRS, with the help of a compromised Justice Department, has engaged in a series of transparently evasive distractions.”

 

However, the IRS argued it is doing everything required to comply with the lawsuit.

 

“As the IRS has said before, it continues to cooperate with the investigations and legal actions underway,” the agency told Fox News. “Suggestions to the contrary are inaccurate and misleading. Beyond this, as this matter is in litigation, the IRS defers to its court filings.”

 

In previous court declarations, IRS technology officials have insisted they did everything they could to fix and recover data from the hard drive of Lerner. However, they said their efforts were fruitless, and some of Lerner's emails were lost.

 

Lerner, who has since retired, headed the IRS unit that reviews applications for tax-exempt status, when applications from Tea Party groups and other conservative organizations were held up for extra scrutiny.

 

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God, its endless isn't it?

Just one mound of awfulness after another. How much of this BS do they think we can take?

They are too numerous to list and they all have the same thing in common,,, 'what difference does it make?'

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This is a non-issue.  

 

I read it here in the PG from a very conservative poster who knows a lot more than you do.  

 

:laugh:

I would love to know that poster's thoughts about this "non issue"

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God, its endless isn't it?

Just one mound of awfulness after another. How much of this BS do they think we can take?

They are too numerous to list and they all have the same thing in common,,, 'what difference does it make?'

 

And, even after the dems got their collective asses kicked last Tuesday, Obama is trying to convince us that his policies and programs weren't rejected, it's just that the electorate is just too stupid to understand those programs and policies. Hard to believe that even his most ardent supporters aren't getting fed up with his insults!

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Judicial Watch. Lol!

 

 

yet, you're the one who will believe all the **** Obama and his regime says

 

 

 

put Judicial Watch up against Obama and his merry men every day and I'd always want to be on Judicial Watch's side.

 

how about you?

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Good point Jim. I must have ODS. Not you guys that get suckered by secondary reporting on Judicial Watch stories.

 

Suckered?

 

By what?

 

How long are you gonna' stay aboard this sinking ship? :laugh:

 

Anyway... here's an op-ed piece from the Walk St. Journal

 

At Last, a Chance to Get to the Bottom of the IRS Mess

The Republican Senate takeover signals a new chapter in efforts to rein in the out-of-control tax agency.

 

 

 

The day after Republicans won solid majorities in the House and Senate, House Speaker John Boehner and Senate Majority Leader-to-be Mitch McConnell outlined priorities for the newly elected Congress. High on the list is fundamental tax reform. In addition to overhauling the federal tax code, however, Congress should rein in the Internal Revenue Service.

 

Much has already been learned about the arrogance of the IRS from the House investigations of the agency’s targeting of conservatives. The revelations emerged despite strenuous efforts by Democrats in Washington and by the IRS itself to block inquiries and deny the existence of political targeting—targeting that the former head of the IRS Exempt Organizations Unit, Lois Lerner, eventually acknowledged and apologized for in May 2013.

 

Bringing the IRS to heel can start with re-energizing and expanding congressional investigations and holding accountable those responsible for the targeting and other abuses. To serve notice that the IRS’s thumbing of its nose at Congress by ignoring multiple congressional subpoenas will no longer be tolerated, the House GOP Steering Committee should elect Rep. Jim Jordan as the new chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee (where current chairman Darrell Issa is term-limited).

 

Rep. Jordan has relentlessly pursued the IRS matter in an effort to shed light on the agency’s unprecedented attempts to suppress the free speech of citizen groups. It was Rep. Jordan who first summoned Ms. Lerner, in February 2012, to appear on Capitol Hill and explain why the IRS was withholding recognition of tea party applications for tax-exempt status and subjecting those groups to years of delay and intrusive inquiries. After Ms. Lerner refused to cooperate and answer his questions, Rep. Jordan formally demanded an investigation by the Treasury Department’s inspector general.

 

Rep. Jim Jordan (R., Ohio) on Capitol Hill in 2012. ENLARGE

Rep. Jim Jordan (R., Ohio) on Capitol Hill in 2012. GETTY IMAGES

Without Rep. Jordan, there would have been no IG investigation and no public admission by Ms. Lerner that conservative groups were being subjected to unparalleled scrutiny and mistreatment. Watching Jim Jordan become head of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee would be the IRS’s worst nightmare.

 

There will be a new chairman as well at the House Ways and Means Committee, most likely Paul Ryan , who has been clearly skeptical of the ongoing dissembling of IRS Commissioner John Koskinen . But Republicans must have the right chairmen in place in both houses, giving each of them the tools and mandate to conduct thorough investigations of the IRS, coordinated to avoid competition and overlap.

 

In the Senate, the chairmanships of the Finance, Judiciary and Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs committees are expected to include, respectively:

 

Orrin Hatch, who is largely responsible for forcing the IRS to disclose last summer the destruction of computer hard drives and with them Lois Lerner’s email records;

 

Charles Grassley, who demanded to know if the IRS deliberately filed a false tax lien against, and gave Delaware Democratic officials confidential tax information about, Republican Senate candidate Christine O’Donnell during the 2010 election;

 

Ron Johnson , who has featured several instances of IRS abuses of taxpayers in his “Victims of Government” blog.

 

None of these lawmakers is likely to shrink from forcing the agency to respond to the many unanswered questions about its behavior. Yet Congress can now take steps beyond questioning.

 

Since 2012, House investigators have been subjected to an IRS rope-a-dope game by the refusal of the agency and various officials to respond to subpoenas or to answer questions fully and forthrightly. The House should now reissue the subpoenas that will expire at the end of this Congress and proceed to federal court to enforce all outstanding subpoenas previously issued to the IRS and its personnel during the course of the investigations.

 

More important, the House should ask the federal courts to enforce its May 2014 contempt resolution against Ms. Lerner for refusing to answer questions from Congress about her role in the targeting of conservatives. It is clear that the Obama Justice Department has willfully failed to file an enforcement proceeding in federal court. There also are strong separation-of-powers arguments against allowing the executive branch to unilaterally disregard congressional disciplinary actions taken against an executive-branch official like Ms. Lerner for refusing to testify before Congress.

 

Beyond all this, Republicans now have the opportunity to expand their inquiries into other areas of IRS misconduct. Congress should immediately investigate:

 

• The full extent of targeting of taxpayers with personal and business audits based on their contributions to and involvement with conservative political candidates and organizations.

 

• The IRS seizure of taxpayer assets and bank accounts without due process, as has been widely reported in recent weeks.

 

• The illegal disclosure of confidential taxpayer information to the media, to other federal agencies and to state and local partisan political officials, as we saw in the cases of the National Organization for Marriage, Koch Industries, the Texas Public Policy Council, and the Republican Governors Association Public Policy Council, among others.

 

• The true story of how Catherine Engelbrecht, the founder of True the Vote, came to be audited and subjected to government attacks by multiple federal agencies after founding two conservative organizations in Houston.

 

As Congress shines a light on these and other unacceptable IRS practices, public support for fundamental tax reform will only increase. The new Republican-controlled Congress will thus have a rare opportunity to overhaul a tax policy and a tax-collecting agency that both desperately need it.

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My side is reality. If you want to be suckered by secondary reports on Judicial Watch claims, be my guest. Just realize that doing so is idiotic.

 

What in the story from judicial watch was inaccurate?

 

Anything?

 

 

BTW I'm pretty sure you and reality parted way's when you bought into the whole fantasy about (I think it's 20... I lost count) hard-drives crashing.... I haven't been able to take you seriously after that :laugh:

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