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After years of private land hunting, I'm now on public land. Now can't hang stands... no screws, etc. in the trees are permitted. What is the general concensus on the better choice for portable stands... ladder or climber?

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I'd use a climber any day before I'd use a ladder stand. But I have almost no experience with a ladder, so my opinion is obviously slanted...

 

Why no hang on stands? I can see no screw in steps, but that shouldn't prevent you from using a hang on stand. There are several strap on step systems that work very very well. Lone Wolf, Rapid Rails, etc. My Rapid Rails and a hang on stand will get me up about 20 feet very quickly and quietly. Plus, I can hunt those goofy trees with lots of cover that a climber can't.

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I'd use a climber any day before I'd use a ladder stand. But I have almost no experience with a ladder, so my opinion is obviously slanted...

 

Why no hang on stands? I can see no screw in steps, but that shouldn't prevent you from using a hang on stand. There are several strap on step systems that work very very well. Lone Wolf, Rapid Rails, etc. My Rapid Rails and a hang on stand will get me up about 20 feet very quickly and quietly. Plus, I can hunt those goofy trees with lots of cover that a climber can't.

 

Every hang on stand that I've owned has had a threaded bolt that goes in the tree to support the weight of the stand, then straps to prevent side/rotational motion. Can't screw anything into the tree and be legal. Maybe there are some hang on stands that don't set up that way?

 

I'd really rather go with a hang on if there is one that doesn't require the set up I've described.

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Any recommended model?


Check out Summit brand of climbers. They're about the best there is. The Viper is a nice model.



As far as hang on's, most of the current models strap to the tree. The big "D" store has a bunch at good prices.


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Every hang on stand that I've owned has had a threaded bolt that goes in the tree to support the weight of the stand, then straps to prevent side/rotational motion. Can't screw anything into the tree and be legal. Maybe there are some hang on stands that don't set up that way?

I'd really rather go with a hang on if there is one that doesn't require the set up I've described.


I've got 5 different models of hang-ons and only one of them uses the threaded bolt system you're talking about.  My favorite is Millenium, it uses a chain camlock mounting system that's incredibly easy. No need to support the weight of the stand while you hang it on the tree. Super stable and comfortable as well.


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I've also got a couple of different models of "Big Game" hang-ons. They're decent for a cheaper stand. Nothing screws into the tree. You need to support the weight of the stand when strapping it onto the tree.


Ladder stands are great for putting up before the season and taking them down after it's all over. Way too much to lug around, but they're super comfortable to hunt out of.


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Any recommended model?

 

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API Bowhunter is my favorite, mine is close to 10 years old. It's my favorite because it packs small and tight with two bungee cords AND if you look at the open front you notice the arms... What's so important about arms? Well I can hang my bow on one arm and my binos and grunt call on the other- might not sound like a big deal, but it is for me. I have at least 400 hours in this stand.

 

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My other stand is a Summit Viper, on the tree it is rock solid, more so than the API. As slick as it looks, it's big and packs like doody and is thus noisier* to set up. Because of the wrap around bar it can be more difficult to get into when beginning your climb especially if you have pitch the base up a lot to account for a tree with a dramatic taper. Where it excels (aside from being rock solid) is all day comfort. The seat is adjustable (while you're on the ground) so you can use the front bar as a rest for gun or cross bow shooting. I never use the sit and climb feature it affords. I have at least 100 hours in this stand.

 

The only add-on I use with either stand is a drawstring bag to hold my tether, folding limb saw, and other incidentals. I don't use a foot rest or "speed stirrups", I just stick my feet through the sides of stand and go.

 

* You will make noise setting up any stand. Practice and experience can reduce the volume and duration of the noise making ;)

 

YMMV

 

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If you can put up and secure a ladder stand, it will be far and away the most comfortable for you. :The downside is that any idiot can use it and since it will be there while you're not, it could also be stolen by some enterprising scumbuckets. I've got one I bought from Wal-Mart here on my own property and it might be the best 80 bucks I've ever spent. It's far and away more comfortable and handier than a climber or hang-on. I used both climbers and hang-on's for a few decades hunting private property and you can't go wrong with Lone Wolf or Summit stands. These days if I have to be mobile, it's either climber or ground blind for me.

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Thanks to all for your detailed comments. Now, I've got some decent options and am comfortable that the dollars will be well spent.

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Get a climber like the summit pictured above. As you climb. You sit on the rail on the top section to make sure it's gonna hold as you climb. Also tie the 2 sections together. Don't wonna be 2 feet up hanging while your base Is on the ground. I hunt private land almost all the time. When I hit public. I use a climber.

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We hunt mostly public land so it's climbers for us and Summit is the top dog. I have a Summit 180 for about ten years now and love it. I had a viper (still do) before the 180 came out. The 180 is like a Viper but the outer top rail is a half circle instead of squared off so you get lots more room. As I'm pushing one eighth of a ton on the hoof a little extra elbow room is always welcome. I hunt dark to dark and the Summit is as comfortable as any chair in my house.  Hanging stands are very efficient for getting in quietly but it sux when you get to your public land tree on opening morning and there's no stand. The deer are wary around here and we all go up a good 25 feet to avoid getting busted so ladder stands are out for us.  


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climber,,, if it's for bow look into the Summit Specialist, DICKS sells a model with a better seat (MLB SPECIALIST)

 

I always use a climber, Upstate it's easy to find a suitable tree on Long Island it takes a bit more searching

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