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Will The Republicans Govern?

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National Review says it is a bad idea to try and govern and it would be bad politics. Instead they should focus on 2016. Sounds like a good strategy since Republicans don't believe in government, and have used every opportunity to demonstrate just how bad government can be since Obama took office.

 

So instead of governing, the Republicans need a slogan similar to the one they had during Obama's first term, "Our #1 goal is to make Obama a one-term president".

 

Don't know who said it but it will be true for the next two years.

 

"When the Republican Party screams about government being broken, it's not complaining; it's bragging."

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Originally Posted by nipsip View Post

I for one think the Republicans will take the advice from the National Review and run against Obama and the obstructionist Democrats in 2016.



why?


you should hope they try to lead, and actually do something good in the next 2 years.


odds are you won't agree with everything they do,



or how they do it,


but if they DO some good,



be happy.


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I for one think the Republicans will take the advice from the National Review and run against Obama and the obstructionist Democrats in 2016.

 

You would like that.

 

Make the next dem dope candidate a shoe in for 2016.

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The National Review makes a strong case for not governing and calling it a trap. I do not see any holes in their argument.

 

"With all due respect to the senator and like-minded Republicans, this course of action makes no sense as a political strategy. First: While trade-promotion authority and a tax reform that includes (but is not limited to) corporations are good ideas, voters are not, in fact, waiting anxiously for any of this. Business lobbies are. The Republican party should not pursue an agenda that is identical to theirs.

 

Second: The desire to prove Republicans can govern also makes them hostage to their opponents in the Democratic party and the media. It empowers Senator Harry Reid, whose dethroning was in large measure the point of the election. If Republicans proclaim that they have to govern now that they run Congress, they maximize the incentive for the Democrats to filibuster everything they can — and for President Obama to veto the remainder. Then the Democrats will explain that the Republicans are too extreme to get anything done.

 

Third: A prove-you-can-govern strategy will inevitably divide the party on the same tea-party-vs.-establishment lines that Republicans have just succeeded in overcoming. The media will in particular take any refusal to pass a foolish immigration bill that immediately legalizes millions of illegal immigrants as a failure to “govern.”

 

Fourth: Even if Republicans passed this foolish test, it would do little for them. If voters come to believe that a Republican Congress and a Democratic president are doing a fine job of governing together, why wouldn’t they vote to continue the arrangement in 2016?"

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Neither side will govern. They both try to toe the most central lines of their parties without rocking the boat too much before the next election. If they are on the side of the majority, that means passing enough meaningless bills where the minority party cant accuse them of holding up the process of "governance".  If you're in the minority party you just step back and hope that you get a scapegoat policy the opposition passed while in control, or as was the case in these midterms an unpopular do-nothing in the white house. 

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The National Review makes a strong case for not governing and calling it a trap. I do not see any holes in their argument.

 

"With all due respect to the senator and like-minded Republicans, this course of action makes no sense as a political strategy. First: While trade-promotion authority and a tax reform that includes (but is not limited to) corporations are good ideas, voters are not, in fact, waiting anxiously for any of this. Business lobbies are. The Republican party should not pursue an agenda that is identical to theirs.

 

Second: The desire to prove Republicans can govern also makes them hostage to their opponents in the Democratic party and the media. It empowers Senator Harry Reid, whose dethroning was in large measure the point of the election. If Republicans proclaim that they have to govern now that they run Congress, they maximize the incentive for the Democrats to filibuster everything they can — and for President Obama to veto the remainder. Then the Democrats will explain that the Republicans are too extreme to get anything done.

 

Third: A prove-you-can-govern strategy will inevitably divide the party on the same tea-party-vs.-establishment lines that Republicans have just succeeded in overcoming. The media will in particular take any refusal to pass a foolish immigration bill that immediately legalizes millions of illegal immigrants as a failure to “govern.”

 

Fourth: Even if Republicans passed this foolish test, it would do little for them. If voters come to believe that a Republican Congress and a Democratic president are doing a fine job of governing together, why wouldn’t they vote to continue the arrangement in 2016?"

 

That sounds like the "strong case" somebody made for the Republicans to throw the mid-terms so they'd have a better chance chance at the White House in 2016.

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If Republicans try to govern I am sure some of the top things on their list will be bad trade deals like the Trans Pacific, Keystone Pipeline, cutting corporate taxes to 25%, the budget where Republicans will want to cut Medicare and SS as well as repeal Obamacare.

 

However I don't think they will because MM is of the mind that Obama should have only been a one term president and there were 300+ filibusters during his tenure in the Obama presidency.

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If Republicans try to govern I am sure some of the top things on their list will be bad trade deals like the Trans Pacific, Keystone Pipeline, cutting corporate taxes to 25%, the budget where Republicans will want to cut Medicare and SS as well as repeal Obamacare.

 

Yeah, pushing for single payer medical and a $15 minimum wage won't be on the agenda. Sorry.

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