Slacker Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Also - as you get closer to the beach they are all going up like that I don't question the need to elevate. Just the economics of elevating an existing, low cost structure like that one versus dropping a new modular build onto a raised foundation. Just seems like it would be easier (cheaper) to start on a clean site with something that was pre-designed for a lift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickrazz Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 I don't question the need to elevate. Just the economics of elevating an existing, low cost structure like that one versus dropping a new modular build onto a raised foundation. Just seems like it would be easier (cheaper) to start on a clean site with something that was pre-designed for a lift. I agree. I would not live like that, where you need an elevator to get into your house. A view of the Bay isn't worth it, not from THAT house anyway. The Magnificent Presence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tfisher Posted January 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 two blocks away from us they start to rise like that (not all) - the Army Corp of engineers are coming up with a plan to save Union Beach and start construction in 2015 (think sea wall) - seems their idea of 2 creeks on each side of town they came up with prior to eliviate beach front surges were the ultimate doom of Union Beaches 1 mile away from the bay residents Looking at those houses in my late 30s with groceries and 2 kids plus shoveling snow gives me the chills - couldn't even imagine being a senior citizen. I'll show you what a completed one looks like. $100? That's the amount we received to renovate from ins co. No govt assistance needed Professional Novice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacker Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 two blocks away from us they start to rise like that (not all) - the Army Corp of engineers are coming up with a plan to save Union Beach and start construction in 2015 (think sea wall) - seems their idea of 2 creeks on each side of town they came up with prior to eliviate beach front surges were the ultimate doom of Union Beaches 1 mile away from the bay residents Looking at those houses in my late 30s with groceries and 2 kids plus shoveling snow gives me the chills - couldn't even imagine being a senior citizen. I'll show you what a completed one looks like. $100? That's the amount we received to renovate from ins co. No govt assistance needed I gotta tell ya. If I lived there, or in any flood zone, I'd get the place fixed and get out as soon as I could get it sold. All these folks with raised houses are still gonna have grade level parking (I'd assume). So they still have the hassle of moving their cars every storm, not to mention the hassle of being stranded on their own personal island waiting for the water to subside. Just a world full of avoidable headaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tfisher Posted January 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 No **** Sherlock - before we even went through this mess weve outgrown this house - come fall we're going to try and sell Professional Novice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacker Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 No **** Sherlock - before we even went through this mess weve outgrown this house - come fall we're going to try and sell Speaking of Sherlock, Episode 2 of Season 3 is on PBS tonight. Set the DVR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tfisher Posted January 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Speaking of Sherlock, Episode 2 of Season 3 is on PBS tonight. Set the DVR. For a Brit flick her teeth look ok Professional Novice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tfisher Posted January 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 Professional Novice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 two blocks away from us they start to rise like that (not all) - the Army Corp of engineers are coming up with a plan to save Union Beach and start construction in 2015 (think sea wall) - seems their idea of 2 creeks on each side of town they came up with prior to eliviate beach front surges were the ultimate doom of Union Beaches 1 mile away from the bay residents Looking at those houses in my late 30s with groceries and 2 kids plus shoveling snow gives me the chills - couldn't even imagine being a senior citizen. I'll show you what a completed one looks like. $100? That's the amount we received to renovate from ins co. No govt assistance needed Is Union Beach really worth saving? Half man, half horse and licensed to **** in the streets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly By Nite Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 I don't question the need to elevate. Just the economics of elevating an existing, low cost structure like that one versus dropping a new modular build onto a raised foundation. Just seems like it would be easier (cheaper) to start on a clean site with something that was pre-designed for a lift. Probably cost 10-15k just to put that house on cribbing and to put it back down on a new plate. The total cost varies greatly and it all depends on what is needed to be done to that house. The plumbing and electrical alone could run 20k. Looks like 30k worth or masonry to me and digging out the new footings by hand. Then you need a carpenter to install the new plate, sister the joists, strap it down since that's the code. Very costly.. I think any flood damaged home built earlier than 20 years ago should be knocked down and rebuilt or the land should be left alone. Bringing an old home into compliance is costly. But then there are zoning issues...if you knock down your home can you build it in teh same foot print? Will teh demo affect your neighbors as most shore homes are very close to each other...That's where elevation comes into play. In some cases knocking down a home is not feasible. I think that in the grand scheme of things its much easier to knock down and start from scratch than it is to play games with an old house trying to bring it up to code and into compliance. It all depends on other factors and not necessarily money. Who knows what the situation was with that property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacker Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 That kinda money would buy a nice house in Knoxville, TN. Mighty cold down there today... started the morning at -3 deg F. They have practically no snow equipment so about 2" of snow yesterday shut the place down... I'm talking restaurants closed, even McDonalds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacker Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Precise is sort of what we call in the trade a "shallow thinker", so for his benefit, allow me to point out that this picture pretty much contains water in all its possible forms. Cool, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tfisher Posted January 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Is Union Beach really worth saving? in 2004 as the housing bubble started to grow - a single fisherman such as myself decided to move from NNJ closer to the beach where my "soul" felt more at home (and was within my budget) - 1 pooch, a wife, 2 kids and one hurricane later; Sparky? I couldn't agree with you more - it was however; a good starting point - Professional Novice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Slacker Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Cougar!! Quit skulking around in those other forums you schmuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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