nycman Posted May 16, 2003 Report Share Posted May 16, 2003 ok, ordered that allstar 1267-2 and a set of low riders. heres my ?: i see on the fuji LC spacing/sizing diagrams that fuji recomends a top 1 size bigger than the running guides. i was gonna use sz 8 running guides so i need a sz 10 top, but i can only find CMNTs in sz 8. would a ICMNST fit the bill? basically are the MNST and CMNST the same frame? mikeDiskateforfun @ gmail dot com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy 40 Posted May 16, 2003 Report Share Posted May 16, 2003 Mike - go with all 10's instead of 8's. Oz said something about knot clearance or something surf fishy. The frame is MN, the first letter designates the color. MNST is a Gunsmoke colroed MN frame with an SIC ring. ICMNST is an Ion Coated (I believe this is a Black frame) MN frame with an SIC ring. Yes they are the same. "the internet is the greatest platform for people who don't know anything, to tell people how much they don't know, to people who don't know anything and believe everything they read." -Billy 40:16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycman Posted May 16, 2003 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2003 awesome, thanks billy, thats what i thought (yer cool fuji cheat sheets help a lot) so use 10s for the running guides hmmm... ready to go! thanks! this one should be sweeeet. mikeDiskateforfun @ gmail dot com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy 40 Posted May 17, 2003 Report Share Posted May 17, 2003 I hoped someone with surf knowledge chimed in on the size 10 running guides. I think with a 50# shock leader you need teh larger guides so the knot flows through smooth. Based on what i've been told, 8's are too small. "the internet is the greatest platform for people who don't know anything, to tell people how much they don't know, to people who don't know anything and believe everything they read." -Billy 40:16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycman Posted May 17, 2003 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2003 would you (or any surfrod builder out there) agree with fuji and use a top one size larger? ie: 10s as runners and a 12 top? mikeDiskateforfun @ gmail dot com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadwall8 Posted May 17, 2003 Report Share Posted May 17, 2003 10's are my minimum on a conventional. Spinners, by design, tend to beat up knots to failure pretty fast. Unless I'm spin chunking with 5 or 6 oz with my 2M or 2F I don't bother with the shocker. I imagine that the idea behind using a tip one size larger is that the line will make less contact going from 10 10 10 12 (tip) than 10 10 10 10(tip). Makes at least theoretical sense to me. gad "I came into this world naked, screaming at the top of my lungs, and covered in someone else's blood. I got no problem leaving it that way."Who can hope to be safe? Who sufficiently cautious? Guard himself as he may, every moment's an ambush. Horace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltheart Posted May 17, 2003 Report Share Posted May 17, 2003 I don't use the tip bigger tan the last guides. maybe its a low rider thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycman Posted May 18, 2003 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2003 ok, been and i see an expert somewhere else recommends using 1 size smaller for the top! now im really confused. so i decided to go the standard(ish) route. this will be my first surf rod for me to use, and ime doing enough weird things! to make things harder for others (and convenient for me) anglers workshop says the ICMNST are discontinued, but they had a 10 in stock that fits my specs. sz10 runners + sz10 top mikeDiskateforfun @ gmail dot com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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