twilson615 Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 I live on cape cod and fish either the canal and beaches daily and lately I've been buying a lot of Super Strike Lures, I've got a decent size collection now and its only going to grow. I feel as though they have that durability factor that nothing else I have does. I was hoping to get some advice on fishing them. I have had really good luck on the Darters and little neck poppers but not so much with the needlefish or little neck swimmers. It sucks to try them out when i know bass are around because of I know my SP minnows and savage gear jigs produce. So I've been throwing them when no bass are showing with out any luck, surprise... Any input would be greatly appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davebart Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 There is a ton of info if you do a search on here. Most guys fish slow pretty much as slow as you can reel than even slower. Others fish with intermittent twitches and others have fished them like a pencil there is no wrong way The right way is the one that gets a strike. They can be darn right frustrating and I am in no way an expert on these but man oh man do they produce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davebart Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 Sorry one thing to add they are all different some float some sink very slow some sink fast and all have their purpose. Good luck stick with them and eventually you will cash on on this staple of surf fishing. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buz23 Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 I wasn't aware that any of the SS needles float. Which ones - I would like a floater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davebart Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 I don't think they do just talking in general of needles sorry I didn't clarify that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twilson615 Posted August 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 I searched a bit for info but all it said was slow retrieve and they work. Not what conditions were best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davebart Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 They work in all conditions very versatile for something that looks like a stick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZ Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 Excerpt from the book: {The Musso Super Strike Needlefish can be effective in all conditions and because of its plastic construction (which is less buoyant) it often shines in very rough water. When fishing during a big sea or severe sweep, delay the start of your retrieve to allow the Super Strike Needle to settle beneath the water’s surface, and then slowly retrieve it with short twitches of the rod tip and occasional pauses to allow it to sink again. During calmer conditions use a slow to moderately fast retrieve until you find the speed the bass prefer. We also use a “skipping” technique with the Super Strike Needlefish. “Skipping” a Super Strike needle requires a slightly faster retrieve with occasional strong jerks of your rod tip to make the needle skip across the water creating a surface commotion. We use this technique both day and night with great effectiveness. I am convinced the Super Strike needlefish creates a unique sound when skipped and because of this it often takes bass when other needles don't. We’ve tried skipping other brands of needlefish with very limited success. Super Strike Needlefish can also be very effective in rips. Another versatile aspect of the Super Strike Needlefish is the fact that its action can be altered by “loading” it. By design the Super Strike Needlefish has two hollow chambers within it, one forward and one in the rear. These chambers can easily be loaded with water, BBs or lead shot. I prefer loading the rear chamber only. Using a hot nail poke a hole about a ¼ inch below the belly swivel. Diameter of the hole depends on what you intend to load into the plug. Lead shot and BBs will need a larger hole than injecting water with a syringe. After loading, heat a knife edge to melt the hole closed. Then add a drop of epoxy to seal it. Now take a hot nail and lay it on the nose of the needle lightly so it makes an imprint. This imprint will easily distinguish which needles have been loaded and can easily be felt while fishing a shore during darkness without using a light. Depending on how much weight is added you will increase casting distance, change the action, allow the plug to be fished deeper in the water column, and allow the needle to handle better in sweep conditions. Experimenting with different loads is key for the areas you’ll be fishing.} Note that there are various sizes of SS needles which also comes into play. My suggestion to you would be to always start with the SS Needle before trying other plugs so as to gain confidence with the more aggressive bass that generally hit on the first few casts. Good luck. DZ baldwin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davebart Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 Great info thanks DZ. is this from your book? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZ Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 Great info thanks DZ. is this from your book? Yes Dave. Always willing to help with needle questions. baldwin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davebart Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 Have been meaning to read it. Gonna pick a copy up now thanks DZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twilson615 Posted August 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 Yes Dave. Always willing to help with needle questions.I am going to get the book as well. How bout the little neck swimmer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twilson615 Posted August 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 So does anyone have any input on little neck swimmers? I throw them a lot with little success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davebart Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 I think the key is to change up your retrieve. First find the right speed that makes it swim like a metal lip then give it 2 to 3 pops on the last pop let it drop them start the swimming process into the pop. Variation of the retrieve is the ticket. The same goes for all poppers. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Seas Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Quote: Originally Posted by davebart I think the key is to change up your retrieve. First find the right speed that makes it swim like a metal lip then give it 2 to 3 pops on the last pop let it drop them start the swimming process into the pop. Variation of the retrieve is the ticket. The same goes for all poppers. Dave Dave I think he is talking about the little neck swimmers and not the little neck popper which is what I believe you are referring to here. I have not used the little neck swimmers but I have had decent success with the Northbar bottle plugs. I have done better with them changing up the retrieve with intermittent starts and stops and changing speed during the retrieve. Maybe that would help with the little neck swimmers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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