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I promised a couple of weeks ago to get some pics of my new digital and the waterproof box (both Cannon). Well, after much delay, here they are.

 

Empty case from the front.

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Empty case from the rear.101_0108_IMG.JPG

 

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Open case w/ camera.

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Ready to get wet.

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The camera is a Power Shot S110 (digital Elph) and the case is a AW-PS200 All Weather Case that is spec'd to be submersible to 9-feet.

 

Happy camera hunting,

 

Chris

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Had a feeling there might be a few questions. icon15.gif

 

In order...

 

Joev, I'm pretty sure that they don't, but it's hard to say for sure. The case I have seems to be pretty well hidden from the public. Nobody at Ritz or any other local store has ever heard of it, and it's VERY well hidden on the Cannon site. Because of it's meager rating, the dive photography sites don't cover it either. Check, you never know what you'll find.

 

JonS, the pictures of just the case were taken w/ my camera. The ones w/ the camera in them were shot with an old Olympus D340R that belongs to my office. Online comparisons between the two are virtually useless because all the pictures have been reduced to a shadow of their former selves in order to get under the 50K limit imposed for SOL. The only (semi-) meaningful comparison you might draw would be of color rendering, but that's moot with the shots above because they were all taken on my desk at work under flourescent light.

 

I almost always shoot with the camera set to the highest resolution (1600 x 1200 pixels) and the file compression set to superfine (fine and normal being the other options). Compression is a necessary evil with all but the super high end cameras 'cause the storage format is .jpg (compressed. You can minimize the losses associated with this by selecting the least invasive algorithim (superfine). Any manipulation (digital zooming, cropping, further compression, etc.) I save until I'm at my computer.

 

Here are a few sample shots (outside) taken with the S110:

 

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As you can see, poor lighting and mediocre composition aren't cured by a nice camera. biggrin.gif To get a better idea of what these looked like before they were butchered, I'll e-mail a couple of them to you so you can check them out full size. Unfortunately, you really don't get the full effect until you print them on photo quality paper and put them beside other pictures taken from another digital. rolleyes.gif

 

Barrell, beats me. Check out Wetpixel (warning, this URL has produced a porn site for somebody in the past but it has always worked for me) or Steve's Digicams . If you can't find specific information at one of those sites or their links, give me a shout and I'll try to find a link I once had to another site. Don't get your hopes up too much, there doesn't seem to be much out there for the Sony products. Their proprietary storage media is killing them.

 

Chris

 

 

[This message has been edited by Porter (edited 02-12-2002).]

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I found that B and H shows several weatherproof or waterproof cases in the printed version of their catalog but the cases are impossible to find on their website. Unfortunately, my hard copy appears to be on permanent loan.

Joev, I'm pretty sure they made one for at least some version of the Elph.

Barrel, I would try calling them. b and h

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Hey, Joev, looks like this might be the ticket for you. The regular (i.e. film) Elphs are the A10 and A20, right? The link JimW gave for B & H turned up the WP-DC200 Waterproof Case . If not, look further on that site, they appear to have my case (for a good price) and a few others for various iterations on the Elph theme.

 

Chris

 

[This message has been edited by Porter (edited 02-12-2002).]

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I found one on b&h but the ikelite case costs $807. Chris what is propiertery media storage and what dont you like about sonys.

I have never seen any pics as clean as the d7o's including from Nikons top of the line cameras.

Barrell

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"Storage Media" includes all the various devices on which the data (your pictures) are stored. There are two widely used media types, "Compact Flash" (used on Cannon, Kodak, Nikon, Casio, and Epson cameras) and "Smart Media" (used on Fujifilm, Olympus, and Toshiba cameras). These two are the giants of the industry and have the benefit of many aftermarket (i.e. non-OEM) manufacturers producing large numbers of cards to bring the cost down and encourage innovation and growth in the technology. Sony cameras, on the other hand, use their proprietary "Memory Stick" media. A few older cameras use/used other formats, including 3-1/2" disks that could be inserted directly into your computer disk drive, but these have mostly died out in favor of smaller media types.

 

 

To draw an analogy, "Smart Media" is like a 5-1/4" floppy disk, "Compact Flash" is like a 3-1/2" disk. Sony has now come along and decided that the world would be better off with their 4" disk. It may be better, but they're bucking the established standards (right or wrong) and that's always hard in the high-tech world (evidence: Linux).

 

Of course, you may be perfectly happy with the Sony product and if you buy another camera you might just get another Sony and you won't have to purchase new storage media (assuming they stick with the "Stick"). I have absolutely nothing against Sony and their media choice has (almost) nothing to do with the quality of picture you get from the camera. Picture quality has much more to do with the CCD (or equiv.) used to capture the image, optics type/quality, and the compression algorithm (if any) used to store the image. For others contemplating their first digital camera purchase, media type is one piece of the puzzle to consider.

 

Of course, if you opt not to go with Sony, deciding between the other two formats can be an issue. To take my analogy another step further, here's what I learned as I was researching my purchase. Smart Media cards (i.e. 5-1/4" floppies) are thin, fragile, and easily corrupted. Compact Flash cards (i.e. 3-1/2" disks) are more rugged, easier to handle, and have much greater storage potential. Maximum currently available media sizes are 128MB for Memory Sticks, 128MB for Smart Media and 512MB for Compact Flash (w/ 1GB coming to market soon). Of course, 128MB is a LOT of pictures and you may never desire more storage capacity than that.

 

Check out this link for a bit more information and retail prices of various media types.

 

More information than you were after? Sorry. cwm12.gifcwm12.gif

 

Oh yeah, nearly forgot... those Ikelite cases are awesome; Waaaay overkill for the kayak (most are submersible to 30m or 50m) but absolutely the best out there and your camera will NEVER get wet, no matter how much it gets pounded in the surf.

 

Chris

 

OK, got the typing fingers warmed up, time to get back to work.

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"Proprietary Storage"

 

Hey, I bet you guys can remember Beta format VCR's. wink.gif You'd think Sony would remember, too. They did have the best special effects for a few years, though.

Jim

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Porter, with your canon, one you put it in the case, can you turn it on and off. I just read in a magazine that the canon s-30 in it's case, you can NOT turn it on and off, so you have to leave it on all the time.

 

Nick

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Yep, sure can. You loose 3 control buttons, none of them imperitive for on-the-water use. They are mostly picture review and menu controls. Very odd that the S33 can't be turned off.

 

Chris

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42" striper draped across my legs with both ends beyond the kayak's gunwales (see my hand on left for scale), all recoreded with exactly the Elph setup Porter has shown. Image is in fact a computer "stitch" of 3 separate shots, all with flash. Everything was soaked. It's a very good all weather camera.

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