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I have to say, it all makes perfect sense now.

 

 

http://www.afghaninfowar.com/blackwater-founder-erik-prince-finally-admits-that-the-company-was-a-cia-extension/

 

BLACKWATER FOUNDER ERIK PRINCE FINALLY ADMITS THAT THE COMPANY WAS A CIA EXTENSION.

 

Afghan Info War | Mar 31, 2013 | Comments 35

 

BLACKWATER FOUNDER ERIK PRINCE FINALLY ADMITS THAT THE COMPANY WAS A CIA EXTENSION. ONLY TO ENSURE HIM AND OTHER MERCENARIES COULDN’T BE PROSECUTED UNDER FEDERAL LAW OF COURSE.

 

In an interview published Thursday by the Daily Beast, Prince revealed how deeply connected Blackwater was to the Central Intelligence Agency, especially in the early 2000s. Last month, federal prosecutors dropped felony charges against Blackwater personnel after it was revealed that the employees had been acting under the orders of the US government. After a three-year-long prosecution, most of the company’s executives walked free and two men received nothing more than probation, house arrest and $5,000 fines.

 

But the tens of thousands of pages of court documents from the case shed light on an argument the company made throughout those three years – that Blackwater itself was an extension of the CIA.

 

“Blackwater’s work with the CIA began when we provided specialized instructors and facilities that the Agency lacked,” Prince told the Daily Beast.“In the years that followed, the company became a virtual extension of the CIA because we were asked time and again to carry out dangerous missions, which the agency either could not or would not do in-house.”

 

Initially, lawmakers believed the CIA was “looking for skills and capabilities, and they had to go to outside contractors like Blackwater to make sure they could accomplish their mission,” said retired Congressman Pete Hoekstra. But the relationship was in fact much closer than believed.

 

When King Abdullah of Jordan visited the US in 2005, he took a trip to the Blackwater headquarters in Moyock, North Carolina, where company executives awarded him two gifts – a modified Bushmaster AR-15 rifle and a Remington shotgun. The weapons were labeled with the Blackwater logo, but Prince says that the CIA asked the company to give Abdullah the guns “when people at the agency had forgotten to get gifts for him.”

 

In a 2008 raid of the Blackwater headquarters, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) discovered that the weapons given to Abdullah had been registered as personal property by two employees at the agency – and there was no paperwork indicating that they were now in the possession of Jordanian royalty.

 

Additionally, the ATF found that many of Blackwater’s weapons had been purchased illegally. Some of these weapons, which included Romanian AK-47s and 17 Bushmaster AR-13s, had illegally had their barrels shortened and been exported to other countries in violation of federal gun laws.

 

Blackwater argued that in all of these instances, it had been working on behalf of the CIA. Court documents include depositions from CIA executives testifying that Blackwater provided weapons and training for them. One court document even lists “Erik P” as a CIA officer himself.

 

“The CIA routinely used Blackwater in missions throughout the world,” one document reads. “These efforts were made under written and unwritten contracts and through informal requests. On many occasions the CIA paid Blackwater nothing for its assistance. Blackwater also employed CIA officers and agents, and provided cover to CIA agents and officers operating in covert and clandestine assignments. In many respects, Blackwater, or at least portions of Blackwater, was an extension of the CIA.”

 

Prince told the Daily Beast that he agreed to provide the CIA with free services out of “patriotic duty”. And even though he sold Blackwater, now known as Academi, for $200 million, he continues to hold a grudge against prosecutors for going after the company.

 

“Blackwater carried out countless life-threatening missions for the CIA,” he said. “And in return, the government chose to prosecute my people for doing exactly what was asked of them.”

 

 

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Blackwater carried out countless life-threatening missions for the CIA,” he said. “And in return, the government chose to prosecute my people for doing exactly what was asked of them.”



 



Do you think Prince and the Dr. that helped us in Pakistan share some thoughts on trusting the government?



 



 



 



"As Secretary Clinton has said, we believe that the prosecution and conviction of Dr. Afridi sends the wrong message about the importance of our shared interest in taking down one of the world’s most notorious terrorists," the spokesperson said. "That was clearly in Pakistan’s interests as well as ours and the rest of the world. We regret both the fact that he was convicted and the severity of his sentence. We have made our views very well known – both to the Pakistanis and in public."



 



Yes it does send the wrong message,it sends the message that when you deal with the US you may be abandoned after you are no longer useful.

 


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So they weren't reckless mercenaries. They wee doing what they were told. When you are the only nation in a war playing by rules, these gray areas go a long way.

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So they weren't reckless mercenaries. They wee doing what they were told.



maybe you don't know what "mercenaries" are.



 



if you are paid to kill people and you do as you are told, you are in fact a mercenary,



if you carry out the task in a sloppy fashion you are a reckless mercenary.


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. But perhaps they were not acting recklessly...only doing what they were told.



why do you think they can't be both?



and fyi, the USA isn't facist Nazi Germany,



don't evoke the Nazi defense of following orders... Blackwater didn't have to FOLLOW any orders,



 



they did it for a paycheck and could have said no.


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Blackwater didn't have to FOLLOW any orders,

 

they did it for a paycheck and could have said no.

 

Because they knew as long as the CIA was giving the orders they wouldn't be prosecuted. Pretty simple. Their business is a mercenary business, not a moral judgment business.

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Because they knew as long as the CIA was giving the orders they wouldn't be prosecuted.



FANTASTIC,



so they weren't just following orders,



they were being paid to do something,



they were willing to do it for money,



and they were confident they wouldn't be prosecuted for breaking laws in the process.....



 



awesome.



 



Can you break a law just because the government pays you to do something?



I'd say YOU should go to jail,



as well as the Government official who paid you to break the law.


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I am talking about their motivation and rationalization...not whether it is right or wrong. If these missions were ordered, then those ordering them were certainly hoping that having hired hands do them would provide more of a smokescreen than having the military do them. Or maybe they knew that the military would NOT follow through with them because of the nature of the missions. Looks like the CIA was looking for a loophole.

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FANTASTIC,

so they weren't just following orders,

they were being paid to do something,

they were willing to do it for money,

and they were confident they wouldn't be prosecuted for breaking laws in the process.....

 

awesome.

 

Can you break a law just because the government pays you to do something?

I'd say YOU should go to jail,

as well as the Government official who paid you to break the law.

 

What laws do you feel the black water guys broke, that they should go to jail for?

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What laws do you feel the black water guys broke, that they should go to jail for?



whichever ones they feared being prosecuted for,



 



did you read the article,



they are coming forward with this SS "following orders" defense in order to avoid prosecution,



no?


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Is this story being followed by other media outlets? Nothing in particular against the Daily Beast, but one man's account could be no more than settling a grudge.

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Is this story being followed by other media outlets? Nothing in particular against the Daily Beast, but one man's account could be no more than settling a grudge.

 

DB was granted and published the interview, so the only other news stories are reporting what was said in that interview. Not sure what the real truth is. Somewhere in the middle, most likely.

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whichever ones they feared being prosecuted for,

 

did you read the article,

they are coming forward with this SS "following orders" defense in order to avoid prosecution,

no?

 

So , u r angry at a strawman, lol.

 

Typical.

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