slip n slide Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 Springtime means our local specialty fish store here in Ohio gets herring in from the E coast.Most are blue/black on their backs but some,which are a bit larger than the blue-black ones,are more of an olive-bronze tone.The blue ones have softer,slightyl darker and more fine textured meat and are even more mild in flavor (if that's possible) than the green ones. I can see why stripers like to eat them,tasty lil fishes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 Ted, The slightly larger ones are call Ale Wives. Read the thread Herring of NY it gives you a idea of the differences between the two River Herring species. Or go on line and search the NY State Hudson River Fisheries Unit and click the article. It comes with pictures as well as the differences between the tow species. I'm getting itchy for May and Cape Cod. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slip n slide Posted April 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Bob,I remember alewives from the grt lks...different fish. I did a lil bit of looking around and found bluebacks and river herring w/ the last being the likely culprit regarding the green backed fish. We have skipjack herring in the Ohio river,fight and look like tarpon,to about 5lb max but 1-2lbs on avg.Wouild'nt think of ever eating one of those as they're godawfully stenchful,unlike herring from the sea. 7 wks and counting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
researchdude Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 Atlantic Herring "the views and opinions stated here are mine and not that of my employer" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slip n slide Posted April 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Not the same as blueback? That looks like the blue ones I've been eating. Are the green ones not river herring? I am unable to detect the spot near the pecs shown in pics of river herring on the fish I'm getting....look more like ciscoes,but I know those aint in the ocean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feetinsand Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 http://www.fishwatch.gov/seafood_profiles/species/herring/species_pages/atl_herring.htm An excellent website to look around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
researchdude Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 good info there feetinsand. Hey Slip - the fish that are traditionally harvested in the ocean are Atlantic Herring. As you can see they are much narrower than the two types of River Herring above. I'm not a herring expert though and could be wrong... "the views and opinions stated here are mine and not that of my employer" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 good info there feetinsand. Hey Slip - the fish that are traditionally harvested in the ocean are Atlantic Herring. As you can see they are much narrower than the two types of River Herring above. I'm not a herring expert though and could be wrong... you got it rigth researchdude. Atlantic Herring spawn in saltwater and river Herring as shown above need fresh water to get it on!" slip n slide what you call alewives are land locked alewives that are Great Lakes are called "Mooneyes" in the Hudson River Valley and the NY City reservoirs in the Catskill Mountians. Main source of protein for brown and rainbow trout in the lakes. The streams that feed into the reservoirs get huge spring runs of them spawning. Prolific little critters.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slip n slide Posted April 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 Mooneye is in the genus Hiodon(as is golden eye and both have a wicked set of teeth),atlantic menhaden are Brevoortia and the inland menhaden is an Alosa.The mooneye is present in the grt lks but not in any big #'s like the menhaden used to be before the introduction of zebra mussels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief2 Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 or it could be shad, hickory or gizzard. Hickory is more olive, and gizzard is more orange hickory shad [img= gizzard shad http://www.stripersonline.com/content/type/61/id/1564629/] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j0k3r Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 Don't the hickories tend to show up early fall? I caught a ton of em as bycatch on small metals for snappers. Seen them hit plugs too and get up to 16"+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief2 Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 Joker, they do. But they can theoretically be here around this time. This year, no, it has been too cold, but basically in March through May, they spawn, in 60 degree water. I believe this was a reference to his experiences over multiple years, and with a warm winter, and early spring, 60 is not unheard of in that time frame. So in years past, you MAY have gotten one of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChumSlickJon Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 Don't the hickories tend to show up early fall? I caught a ton of em as bycatch on small metals for snappers. Seen them hit plugs too and get up to 16"+. They're here all summer, I use them for crab bait. Delete from SOL_Users where username like 'wasy','Seal'.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slip n slide Posted April 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2013 Quote: Originally Posted by j0k3r Don't the hickories tend to show up early fall? I caught a ton of em as bycatch on small metals for snappers. Seen them hit plugs too and get up to 16"+. Those must be the ones I catch on my flashier teasers in the surf in the fall...may have to drag some back for the smoker next time. Chief, the green-backed ones do look like those hickories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gully Posted April 7, 2013 Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 jersey tarpon! great fun on 6lb mono and a freshwater rod! -Hey dumbass it's not about a kill or no kill tournament, it's about how much your 2nd favorite club can mug you! That's it... -the reports thread is the yenta section for NJ.. -If’n ya cut yer teeth on Ava and teaser fishing please take a seat in the back and keep quite… -is monkey see monkey do fishing even fun..?? -yes I still fish with mono.. On occasion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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