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West Marine supports ANTI_FISHING Organisation

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This is the post that started it all over on the ******** forum:

 

It's bad enough that Budwiser supports the Ocean Conservency, but West Marine's largest customer base is recreational fishermen. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you!

For those who don't know, the Ocean Conservency is activly working to defeat the Freedom to Fish Act and is in support of complete bans on recreational fishing in HUGE areas of the most productive waters off the Southern California Coast. You can bet that if the radical environmental groups are sucessful in California, they'll be trying the same thing in your waters before long.

 

West Marine's support of this group is causing a firestorm of protest by recreational fishermen on the West Coast and I think it makes sense to make sure you Florida guys know about it as well. Please consider letting both Budwiser and West Marine know your feelings on this issue. There are plenty of other beers and marine supply stores out there. Let's let these guys know how we feel.

 

Here's proof of my claim as to West Marine's support of the Ocean Conservency:

http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/commerce/command/ExecMacro/press.d2w/r eport?pressrelease=pr_050302.inc

 

Here's the Ocean Conservency position of the Freedom to Fish Act:

http://actionnetwork.org//campaign/StopFFA

 

 

Here is the names an page for West Mairne email links:

 

 

West Marine

John Edmondson, CEO www.johne@westmarine.com

Randy Repass, Founder and Chairman www.randyr@westmarine.com

 

 

Thanks guys,

 

They have lost my business forever.

 

[This message has been edited by TimS (edited 07-28-2002).]

 

 

 

[This message has been edited by PhillyO (edited 07-30-2002).]

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There are a lot of posts on this on a boat board. Seems like CCA or others supporting the Right To Fish Act will be meeting with them soon to see if they might reconsider, although I believe a rep for the ever expanding no fish zones will be there to state their case as well.

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I'm more of a lurker here than anything else, but yep - its been the hot topic for a week on the Shamrock boat owner's board:

 

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Its up to three pages and growing.

 

rgds, Leprechaun

 

 

 

[This message has been edited by TimS (edited 07-28-2002).]

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The first principle of these far out groups is that nobody should be allowed to have too good a time.

This seems awfully like the first step of many.

I work about halfway between a Boater's World and a West Marine that are about two miles apart and equally inconvenient. Guess which one just got closer. It's got the better prices too.

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I just sent in a check (small though it may be) to the CCA to help stop these "No Fishing Zones" They could use all the help they can get in this battle.

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Gentlemen,

As Peter Shelly from the CLF puts it..

 

"Finally, FULLY PROTECTED (that means everybody) MPAs are the ONLY tool available to protect parts of the Ocean as Wilderness."

 

If any of you think that a "wilderness" designation of an area (land or sea) doesn't include .. no fishing, hunting or trespassing of all kinds to all people (except researchers), then you all will be wofully sorry when certain beaches and ocean areas will be roped off and made both "no fishing" areas AND no transit areas... for everyone. Period.

Find out all you can about what happened down in the Galapagos Islands when the "scientific researchers" rode into town and closed off 95% of the Islands and surrounding seas to the native inhabitants.

No more fishing and urchin collecting etc..

Most local people were put out of a living.. unnecessarily too.

There was a tradgic death of a young,zealous researcher and some researchers buildings and such were trashed and burned etc.. it was close to a war between the the locals and these interlopers that knew what was best for "society".

The "ugly American" all over again.

The Nature Conservancy in RI has totally closed off large areas that were once open areas for people to hunt and fish and those hunters and fishermen that grew up using these areas all their lives don't like it one bit. No hunting, fishing or even WALKING through the area.

"No nothing zones"... and this "freedom to fish" nonsense that is being bandied about by some recreationally biased Congressional leaders will be a meaningless gesture when it butts heads with the various well entrenched "wilderness organizations" that will have the law and regulations already in place to do what they feel is "right for all of society."

You all better go back and read between the lines in all of those articles.

MPAs will be permanent.. and despite what the proponents may seem to say to the recreational fishing community, they are no friends to the fishermen in any fashion.

MPAs will be touted as being a "means to an end" to help fishermen catch more fish in the future..balony...

When in reality they are nothing more than just an "end" to fishing in certain areas we now are allowed to fish. A permanent end.

MPAs with a two or three year "sunset renewal date" has to be the only way that they can be allowed to exist in the future.

This sunset legislation will allow for any unforseen "mistakes" in intended actions and closures in certain area to be automatically corrected... and any correct actions and consequenses to be continued in regulation.

Be very careful in what you support here.

Rhodester

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This was cut and pasted from another site:

 

Go to: http://www.budweiser.com/ At the home page click on "Sports", when menu drops down, click on "Outdoors", from window on left side of screen click on "Conservation". This will take you to a new screen called "Other Supported Programs". Find "The Center for Marine Conservation" and click on it. "WHAMMO" what do you have? The Ocean Conservancy website. On left column click on July 5, 2002. "WHAMMO" its the infamous H.R.3547 letter.

 

This is the response the AB provided when confronted:

 

Thank you for contacting Anheuser-Busch regarding the Freedom to Fish Act.

At Anheuser-Busch, we share the same general philosophy as other environmental organizations when it comes to protecting the environment. It is an erroneous assumption to infer that because we support the Ocean Conservancy we support all of their policies and political agenda. We specifically do not endorse their campaign against the Freedom to Fish Act. Our work with this group is limited to beach clean up efforts and to our Sea World/Busch Gardens Environmental Excellence Awards program.

 

Anheuser-Busch is a major supporter of recreational fishing and the marine environment. We need a healthy marine ecosystem in order to have good recreational fishing. We are interested in doing our part in improving recreational fishing and the marine environment. Since 1993, The Ocean Conservancy (formerly the Center for Marine Conservation) has served as one of nine judges in the Sea World/Busch Gardens Environmental Excellence Awards, a program designed to recognize and reward K-12 school groups for their environmental conservation efforts. In addition, Sea World has supported The Ocean Conservancy's International Coastal Cleanup, the largest volunteer beach cleanup event in the world. Each year, animal care staff from Sea World's Animal Rescue and Rehabilitation program witness first-hand the harmful impacts of beach debris on marine life around the world, and remain committed to helping keep coastal habitats clean and safe.

 

We support conservation and all outdoor sports, including recreational fishing. We believe that there can be a healthy medium reached in which conservation and recreation are not mutually exclusive. Therefore, we trust that the writer, too, will discern this difference.

 

Again, thank you for contacting Anheuser-Busch. Please contact us back if we can be of further assistance.

 

Your Friends at Anheuser-Busch

_________________________

 

 

 

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Tim, I hope that the link that I provided is acceptable. It is important for all of us to know how corporations are spending the money that they collect when we use their products.

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