fishnmagician Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 This is the Map that DoaF posted in another thread and it eliminates ALL doubt in my mind. A = the site of the shooting, B = Clubhouse wehre Tray was getting refuge from the rain and Z started pursuit C = Destination home Tray was going to D = place where Z parked his car A big element in the Tray attacked him from behind story was that Z was too fat to catch Tray. Well clearly he knew the layout of the neighborhood well enough to know how to cut him off. based on the red line and black line and where the shooting took place, it's doubtfull that he was going back to check a street sign, and it's doubtfull that he raced ahead, went thru a cut out between the homes, went to an intercept position, then turned his back on Tray and was attacked from behind....... A grand jury looking at this map and matching it to the 911 call narrative and statements from the GF WILL indict. My guess is Z was going for the Citizens arrest and shot when he started to lose the fight HE started. Eggy 10-13 LAA 7-14 50-50 2-15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnmagician Posted March 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Important aspect of the Case..... Trayvon was seeking shelter from the rain at THE COMMUNITY CLUBHOUSE. that certainly doesn't seem too suspicious to me. unless..... Does anyone know if the Pool house was Whites Only? Eggy 10-13 LAA 7-14 50-50 2-15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamlet Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 clearly and race baiting on your part won't add any facts to this case I won't tolerate your intolerance, because I hate hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontTreadOnAnyone Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 ........ Does anyone know if the Pool house was Whites Only? You carrying water for Al Sharpton? The consensus I've seen on these threads is that racism had nothing to do with the shooting. Keep poking that bear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NS Mike D Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 So you are tailing a stranger at night, and he takes a short cut. You out manuever him and cut him off in a classic ambush. You don't identify your ligitimate reason for doing so. I gotta believe a punch in the nose is going to occur. However, they won't indict. IMO, he dud pursue Martin as indicated by the map. As per the girlfirend's and most of Zim's account, I don't think he was making a citizen's arrest. I do think when he cut off Martin, Martin asked why are you following me, to which Zim asked why are you here, and I think that's when Martin popped hin the nose and thus scuffle. To indict, Zim has to be doing something unlawful, So long as Zin is acting lawfully he is protected under section 3 of the Stand Your Ground law. I don't think Zim knew that aspect of the law, and was seeking to tweak his story for a standard self defense account. Thus describing the final aco**** as Martin approached him. This is technically correct since that is excately what you want to happen in a cut off ambush. The difference is that Martin is unaware that he is approaching Zim until they meet - which is what the girlfiend is describing. whites only at the pool. too funny magish "... let it go - lets move forward." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NS Mike D Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 clearly and race baiting on your part won't add any facts to this case You carrying water for Al Sharpton? The consensus I've seen on these threads is that racism had nothing to do with the shooting. Keep poking that bear. get a sense of humor. he wasn't being serious. it was a funny "... let it go - lets move forward." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamlet Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Ah.. the "it was a joke" defense. Cleaver... but tired. I won't tolerate your intolerance, because I hate hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnmagician Posted March 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Quote: Originally Posted by hamlet Ah.. the "it was a joke" defense. Cleaver... but tired. joke based on the truth I am seeing. race isn't playing ANY part in why I want to see this yahoo convicted, but it seems to be playing a MAJOR role in anyone defending him. The element of the story I could NOT understand or explain is how Z caught up to Tray if in fact Tray was trying to get away. I had no answer for the "How did the out of shape old fat guy catch a 17 year old.... now I do, he DROVE his vehicle further up the path, and knew where the path was to intercept. that's how he was able to get IN FRONT of Tray He wasn't standing his ground, he was an armed vigilante. Eggy 10-13 LAA 7-14 50-50 2-15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontTreadOnAnyone Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 joke based on the truth I am seeing. race isn't playing ANY part in why I want to see this yahoo convicted, but it seems to be playing a MAJOR role in anyone defending him. ........... It's everyone else, not you. That's why you need to keep it real by "joking" otherwise we might all forget what racists we are and just go on with life. This public service announcement has been brought to you by Friends of Derrick Bell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NS Mike D Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 there are a lot of post saying that Martin deserved it and that we are better off without, as well as celebrating Zim. That's pretty nasty racial good old boy bigotry. "... let it go - lets move forward." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnmagician Posted March 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Look BOTH the Girl Friends account and the 911 call mesh thanks to the map. Z never identifies himself as neighborhood watch, what is even more damning is he didn't see the kid break any laws or do anything. yet what he did went BEYOND "watch" he went to apprehend someone for doing NOTHING. He popped up in FRONT of the kid which puts to rest the "jumped from behind" nonsense, the kid was scared, a guy was chasing him.... When the guy suddenly appears in front of Tray and Tray asks "why are you following me" the guy doesn't ID himself and put the kid at ease, he says "what are you doing here" Tray then STANDS HIS GROUND and fearing the guy goes on offense. the vigilante loses the fight and kills him. The whole situation was created by Z. based on the map, it's clear, Tray is just trying to get home. Lock 'em up (by the way, the need to change the story is becoming clearer, the truth is BAD for Z) Eggy 10-13 LAA 7-14 50-50 2-15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Has anyone whipped up a map of the rest of the drug stores that the Sharpton gang will be looting? That would be helpful. “My happiness is not the means to any end. It is the end. It is its own goal. It is its own purpose.” Ayn Rand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnmagician Posted March 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Quote: Originally Posted by Little Has anyone whipped up a map of the rest of the drug stores that the Sharpton gang will be looting? That would be helpful. Yup, keep trying to make this about sharpton, trying to Gin up racist hate is the best way to defend the guy who gunned down an innocent kid. Eggy 10-13 LAA 7-14 50-50 2-15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milk Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 If it turns out that Zimmerman indeed did do that, he needs to be sent to prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Quote: Originally Posted by Milk If it turns out that Zimmerman indeed did do that, he needs to be sent to prison. What is the guy charged with? “My happiness is not the means to any end. It is the end. It is its own goal. It is its own purpose.” Ayn Rand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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