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How exactly will gas prices fall if Obama gets his wish to reduce Gov. funding to the Oil Companies??

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First off it's a no brainer the funding the Oil and gas companies recieve from the Gov is a pathetic fraction compared to Gov's take from the Oil & Gas company revenue.

 

The windfall profits angle doesn't wash because Apple is in position to get gov. funding despite massive windfall profits in the billions and actually percentage wise higher the big oil.

 

If anything further taxing big oil will result in higher gas prices....................... maybe that is the desired result.

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winner winner chicken dinner

 

he gets higher prices, and the ability to say to his voter army that he's trying to do what he can to lower them. As in all things he counts on his voters to be clueless.

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Strawman #1 running against Bush who wasn't even running

Strawman #2 "do nothing congress"

Strawman # 3 Big oil

 

Gotta hand it to Obama, pretty creative in creating imginary enemies to rally against

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If anything further taxing big oil will result in higher gas prices....................... maybe that is the desired result.

 

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what's wrong with that?

 

 

 

it sounds like a free market equitable way of assigning the cost of Gas,

 

 

 

rather than having the price of gas artifically lower (which assumes that BIG oil is passing this on to customers)

 

it would result (perhaps) in big oil raising prices to make up for the money they are no longer getting from the government,

 

 

 

which means the money won't be coming from ALL tax payers,

 

it will be coming from GASOLINE purchasers.

 

 

 

so why is this bad?

 

 

 

 

 

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The Obamaniacs are attempting to drive the sheeple into the 'alternative' energy slaughter pen. Problem is, the sheeple are also part cat, hence the difficulty in the herding. ;)

 

Great Leader is a master at trying to have it both ways; a two-faced fook who wants to have his cake and eat it too. Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice shame on me. I don't think the People are going to be fooled by the Great Obamini a second time around. 'Gas price' smoke & mirrors are fine and dandy, until you see the man behind the curtain. And the curtain will soon be drawn on the Obama, the Wizard of Odd. :squid:

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:huh:

 

what's wrong with that?

 

it sounds like a free market equitable way of assigning the cost of Gas,

 

rather than having the price of gas artifically lower (which assumes that BIG oil is passing this on to customers)

it would result (perhaps) in big oil raising prices to make up for the money they are no longer getting from the government,

 

which means the money won't be coming from ALL tax payers,

it will be coming from GASOLINE purchasers.

 

so why is this bad?

 

 

 

 

who said it was?

What I said (not speaking for others) was that Barry is a hypocrite... raising prices and telling the voting plebes that he was trying to lower them.

 

 

Oh... almost forgot about his dis-ingenuousness of demanding the current congress drop these when he couldnt get his toady puppet pelosi/reid congress to drop them. Just an endless liar.

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:huh:

 

what's wrong with that?

 

it sounds like a free market equitable way of assigning the cost of Gas,

 

rather than having the price of gas artifically lower (which assumes that BIG oil is passing this on to customers)

it would result (perhaps) in big oil raising prices to make up for the money they are no longer getting from the government,

 

which means the money won't be coming from ALL tax payers,

it will be coming from GASOLINE purchasers.

 

so why is this bad?

 

 

 

 

You have no idea how much the oil companies are already taxed starting from the leases, the gov. sticking out it's hand for every barrel filled, corporate taxes, individual income taxes, gas at the pump taxes and the list goes on.

the true free market approach would be elimating all those taxes and not have the gov. hiding behind the pitance in funds the gov. gives back for all they took in. Obama is trying to raise prices with his latest anti free market move.

 

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You have no idea how much the oil companies are already taxed starting from the leases, the gov. sticking out it's hand for every barrel filled, corporate taxes, individual income taxes, gas at the pump taxes and the list goes on.

the true free market approach would be elimating all those taxes and not have the gov. hiding behind the pitance in funds the gov. gives back for all they took in. Obama is trying to raise prices with his latest anti free market move.

 

who owns the land that the oil companies are drilling under those leases?

 

 

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who owns the land that the oil companies are drilling under those leases?

 

Ownership implies what?? if the private comapnies didn't do the heavy lifting the gov. would be on their knees begging for them to produce oil.

 

So how does Obama's war on the oil companies actually translate to reducing the price at the pump?

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I've noticed that CT.'s other boob Senator, Dick Blewemall, is bitching and moaning about those nasty oil speculators today. What a convenient scapegoat for the intellectually challenged. :squid:

 

Obama has decreased drilling on Gov't owned properties. Increased driliing on private property, especially fracking for NG in the East, and oil and gas production in North Dakota, has taken up the slack. All no thanks to the Obumbler. :squid:

 

Apparent official Obumbler policy: take credit where credit is not due; lay blame elsewhere for Gov't foul-ups. :kook:

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I've noticed that CT.'s other boob Senator, Dick Blewemall, is bitching and moaning about those nasty oil speculators today. What a convenient scapegoat for the intellectually challenged. :squid:

Obama has decreased drilling on Gov't owned properties. Increased driliing on private property, especially fracking for NG in the East, and oil and gas production in North Dakota, has taken up the slack. All no thanks to the Obumbler. :squid:

Apparent official Obumbler policy: take credit where credit is not due; lay blame elsewhere for Gov't foul-ups. :kook:

 

We can thank the previous administration for the current increase oil production, definite example of something the Obama administration "inherited"

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The current oil drilling on government owned property is being down by leesee's who received leases from Administrations prior to Obama's. his administration has not offered or initiated a single lease since his election.

 

Here is a little food for thought. Don't forget to factor in the C-17 costs as well.

 

President Barack Obama is about to launch a 5,000-mile, four-state, two-day trip on Air Force One to contain the political damage caused by high gas prices.

 

Obama is slated to fly out this Wednesday to camera-ready podiums in Nevada, New Mexico, Oklahoma and Colorado, from where he’ll tout his administration’s efforts to reduce the nation’s use of gasoline.

 

His 5,000-mile trip will consume roughly 25,000 gallons of jet fuel, according to Boeing.

 

That adds up to a fuel bill of $80,000, assuming the Air Force buys jet fuel at the cheapest cost, now estimated at $3.20 a gallon by the U.S. Energy Administration. The retail price for jet-fuel at local airports is just over $6 a gallon, including taxes.

 

Still, the cheapest jet-fuel costs about 43 cents less per gallon than the $3.63 cost of auto gasoline in Columbus, in swing-state Ohio, where the president will make his final speech on the trip.

 

The cost of gasoline is boosted by state taxes, which amount to roughly 40 cents per gallon, according to GasBuddy.com, which tracks the cost of gasoline in each state. (RELATED: Full coverage of the Obama presidency)

 

The president’s support aircraft, including the C-17 cargo jets that carry his armored limousines and additional vehicles to cities before his arrival, will each burn a comparable amount of additional jet-fuel during the campaign swing.

 

 

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/19/obama-burns-jet-fuel-to-downplay-gasoline-prices/#ixzz1pcSqZMAd

 

Nice! He is going to make a campaign tour on our tax dollars and enjoy pissing of this audiences whilst he tells them how hard it is to be president. And the Congress is at fault.

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Fuzzy logic here. Percentage is irrelevant, taxpayers are giving money to oil companies that are rolling in dollars. Basically you are saying we should pay higher taxes and hope the oil companies pass it back to us at the pump. Good luck with that!

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Fuzzy logic here. Percentage is irrelevant, taxpayers are giving money to oil companies that are rolling in dollars. Basically you are saying we should pay higher taxes and hope the oil companies pass it back to us at the pump. Good luck with that!

 

So basically your saying that if we cut the subsidies our taxes will go down? :laugh:

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