JonC Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 From the NOAA site, a little more to support what we all know. JC Your Query Parameters: Query: MRIP CATCH TIME SERIES Year: 2006 - 2011 Wave: ANNUAL Species: STRIPED BASS Geographic Area: MASSACHUSETTS Fishing Mode: ALL MODES COMBINED Fishing Area: ALL AREAS COMBINED Type of Catch: TOTAL CATCH (TYPE A + B1 + B2) Information: NUMBERS OF FISH Estimate Status Year Common Name Total Catch (A+B1+B2) PSE FINAL 2006 STRIPED BASS 8,124,766 10.2 FINAL 2007 STRIPED BASS 5,646,880 12.6 FINAL 2008 STRIPED BASS 4,027,374 11.7 FINAL 2009 STRIPED BASS 2,627,003 10.6 FINAL 2010 STRIPED BASS 2,012,483 11.1 PRELIMINARY 2011 STRIPED BASS 1,323,156 14.6 Decrease from 2006 to 2011 is 6,802,000 fish, a decrease of 83.7% Decrease from 2010 to 2011 was 690,000 fish, a decrease of 34% __________________Our tradition is that of the first man who sneaked off to the creek when the tribe did not really need fish. Haig-Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter D Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Several references: http://stateofthecoast.noaa.gov/rec_fishing/striped_bass.html http://www.nmfs.noaa.gov/fishwatch/species/atl_striped_bass.htm http://www.asmfc.org/speciesDocuments/stripedBass/reports/stockassmts/2011StripedBassAssmtUpdate.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Brian Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Graphically.. "You must never confuse faith that you will prevail in the end -- which you can never afford to loose -- with the discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever they may be .." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sudsy Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Those are some terrible numbers (but my wife's an accountant, I've learned to never fully trust numbers) Lets be sure that it's an apples to apples annual comparison. Have there been any changes to the law over that stretch, lower commercial allowances, changes to fish size, net or mesh size (if allowed), increase in fee's lowering the number of commercial fishermen targeting bass................................... ??: I just wanta play everyday despite small nagging injuries -- and go home to a woman who appreciates how full of crap I truly am. ~ Crash Davis Social Distancing since 1962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokes Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 . "The toothless, braindead, *********, geriatric mouthbreathers around here love their "safe space". It is the only place in the world where they feel like winners, the gracious thing to do, would be to let them enjoy their delusional reality." -Numbnuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novah Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 I can tell you this much - some of the guys at work are keeping everything they catch for the freezer and to give away filets to those not catching. One guy is out there trolling several nights per week with his son and a buddy and he talks about bringing home multiple fish a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALhbg Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 I think the numbers are close to reality. What they don't show is what NOAA calls "fishing effort", which is a measure of how many people are fishing and how often. Since 2008 the "effort" has declined. This may be due to the recession or maybe guys are just getting discouraged. I think a better measure is the catch rate, or how many fish per hour are caught. This takes into account variations in the effort. I've been keeping a detailed log since 1996 and I use this measure to compare seasons. The log has 1,340 trips and 14,140 stripers, so I believe the data is reasonably useful. For comparison purposes, these are my "Stripers per Hour" numbers for the same years. 2006 - 7.0 2007 - 6.7 2008 - 4.7 2009 - 3.3 2010 - 2.5 2011 - 2.6 The decline is real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim DE Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Sad part is we recreational fishermen have been saying this since 2007 and the NOAA reports call us crazy.......... BS!!!!! We know the time and effort we put in on the water and the net results and we did not become clueless anglers over night after doing this for several decades. Personally I have stopped fishing saltwater locally along the DE beaches. When experience surf fishermen are having conversations about their yearly take and feel good about only 2 keepers all year it's time to re-evaluate how one spends his recreational time and money. I did fish several times up north last summer from RI to ME and if my fishing down here was like yours up there I would be going down to my DE beaches near nightly during the week. I don't need any government agency twisting numbers to tell me that along our DE beaches Striper fishing is dismal at best. Shorebound beach anglers may have maybe at most 15 good days per year during migrations for the opportunity at a quality fish. That is it, period! 15 stinking days out of 365 days .... sickening! Wonder why I went to the freshwater locally? Pretty obvious to me if one defines fishing as catching more than casting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will K Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Those numbers are very sad. I can say, it reflects general observations for me... but seeing the numbers hurts. Ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popneset Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Those numbers are dismally correct in substantiating what we already knew in Mass. Has anyone done same comparison for RI, Conn and NJ to see if percentages are approximately the same? Why can't the decision makers see this trend or are they so deep in the pockets of non recreational fisher interests that their heads are buried somewhere that the sun doesn't shine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobber Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 yeah- and NMFS just voted to keep the regs the same since they can't seem to find amy evidence that the fish are in trouble its all about da fishes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim DE Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 bobber they should come out and fish the beaches I do down here............... They stand a better chance seeing a Gooney bird than catching a keeper striper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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