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Will Our Relationship with Iran Culminate in War?

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If we get a republican in the big office next go around, there is no doubt we will be at war.

Iran or elsewhere.

 

probably not. Mormons are not war hawks.

 

Now if we send a bunch of guys carrying the Book of Mormon into Iran for missionary purposes, that could be viewed as hostile.

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Iran sanctions "biting" in recent weeks: Petraeus

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Iran is feeling the bite from economic sanctions imposed over its nuclear program, which is capable of producing a weapon although Iranian leaders have not yet decided to do so, top intelligence chiefs told Congress on Tuesday.

 

"The sanctions have been biting much, much more literally in recent weeks than they have until this time," CIA Director David Petraeus said at a Senate intelligence committee hearing.

 

"What we have to see now is how does that play out, what is the level of popular discontent inside Iran, does that influence the strategic decision-making of the Supreme Leader and the regime, keeping in mind that the regime's paramount goal in all that they do is their regime survival," he said.

 

Iran's currency, the rial, has lost "considerable value" and there have been "runs on the bank" as Iranians try to dump domestic currency and acquire assets that will hold value better as inflation "takes off," Petraeus said.

 

Director of National Intelligence James Clapper acknowledged that sanctions so far had not caused Iran's leaders to change their pursuit of nuclear capabilities.

 

But he said some Iranian officials appear more willing to conduct an attack in the United States if they feel threatened, citing last year's alleged Iranian plot to kill the Saudi ambassador to Washington.

 

"The 2011 plot to assassinate the Saudi ambassador to the United States shows that some Iranian officials - probably including Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei - have changed their calculus and are now more willing to conduct an attack in the United States in response to real or perceived U.S. actions that threaten the regime," Clapper said in his Senate testimony.

 

"We are also concerned about Iranian plotting against U.S. or allied interests overseas," he said.

 

Senators at the hearing asked about Israel's concerns about Iran's nuclear program, amid speculation that Israel might launch a pre-emptive strike at the country's known nuclear sites.

 

Senator Dianne Feinstein, the panel's chairwoman, and Petraeus said they met recently with the director of Mossad, Israel's intelligence service.

 

"We're doing a lot with the Israelis, working together with them. And of course for them, this is, as they have characterized, is an existential threat," Clapper said.

 

Petraeus, appearing with other intelligence community leaders at an annual open hearing on global threats to U.S. security, said that China has reduced imports of Iranian oil but "it remains to be seen whether that continues."

 

"It appears that Saudi Arabian production is ramping up and can fill some of the demand that might have been met by Iranian exports now that there are the sanctions on the Central Bank of Iran," he said.

 

The United States imposed the harshest sanctions so far on Iran when President Barack Obama on December 31 signed into law new sanctions on transactions involving Iran's central bank.

 

The European Union last week imposed a ban on the import, purchase or transport of Iranian oil. Existing contracts can be honored up to July 1.

 

The West has imposed sanctions over the years due to concerns that Iran's nuclear development program is aimed at building a weapon. Iran says its program is for peaceful purposes.

 

The latest U.S. sanctions will have a deeper impact because the Central Bank of Iran handles a large volume of foreign bank transactions and receives the revenue for the roughly 70 percent of oil sold by the National Iranian Oil Company, Clapper said.....

 

http://news.yahoo.com/iran-sanctions-biting-recent-weeks-petraeus-015048238.html

 

 

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Economic sanctions ARE an act of war, designed to paint a foe into a corner. They rarely work; and usually just escalate the conflict into violence. Our American arrogance brought us Pearl Harbor, and Lord knows what prodding the Persian Scorpion is going to lead to. But even a cornered Scorpion does what it must to survive, and endure. I expect nothing good to come out of this.

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Economic sanctions ARE an act of war, designed to paint a foe into a corner. They rarely work; and usually just escalate the conflict into violence. Our American arrogance brought us Pearl Harbor, and Lord knows what prodding the Persian Scorpion is going to lead to. But even a cornered Scorpion does what it must to survive, and endure. I expect nothing good to come out of this.

 

I, personally, feel that we should just back off. We can't attack people because they might attack us,

 

we should only attack them if they attack us.

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I, personally, feel that we should just back off. We can't attack people because they might attack us,

we should only attack them if they attack us.

 

well thats the problem when yuo are the worlds policeman.....you get tangled up in stuff like this......all the sudden ole ron Paul makes a bot more sense :) Im glad to see TMD coming around to his view :)

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well thats the problem when yuo are the worlds policeman.....you get tangled up in stuff like this......all the sudden ole ron Paul makes a bot more sense :) Im glad to see TMD coming around to his view :)

 

Thanks, John, but I've long held it. I felt that way about Iraq, less so about Afghanistan, very much so about Iran. Is Iran going to use nukes against the US? Of course not. They would never make it here [as in shot down] let them do whatever and don't piss them off. Ron Paul is right about this - so is Pat Buchanan.

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Thanks, John, but I've long held it. I felt that way about Iraq, less so about Afghanistan, very much so about Iran. Is Iran going to use nukes against the US? Of course not. They would never make it here [as in shot down] let them do whatever and don't piss them off. Ron Paul is right about this - so is Pat Buchanan.

 

Since 9/11, we have taken many pages from the Israeli playbook, and 'preemptive war' is one of them. (As is 'coerced interrogation'.) We are now the proxy puppets of the Zionist State, and we dance to their tune. It should surprise us not one wit why we are so despised in the Middle East. Ron Paul is right on the money about that.

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The nuclear issue and the instability of the entire Arab world are the wildcards here, how do we handle this?

Do you really think we should "back off" and allow them to develop the bomb ?

How long is it going to take for Eygypt, Libya, Syria, and the rest of the area to descend into chaos? It's almost there now.

 

Iran would be the big stick in the area and the only one with the with the bomb (Pakistan doesn't count they're not looked upon the same and they have India to deal with) and Iran would gain a huge amount of influence and power - non of that good for us. Israel will never allow then to go nuclear and will strike - something the various regimes under pressure would welcome, as a war with Israel would help them re-unite their peoples.

 

And the cynic in me says that the big money here in the US that are/were profiting immensely from Afghanistan/Iraq want to keep the gravy train rolling.

 

 

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Thanks, John, but I've long held it. I felt that way about Iraq, less so about Afghanistan, very much so about Iran. Is Iran going to use nukes against the US? Of course not. They would never make it here [as in shot down] let them do whatever and don't piss them off. Ron Paul is right about this - so is Pat Buchanan.

 

What about walking a nuke across our southern border, cargo container?

 

You believe they would stop trying to hit us if we left them alone?

 

 

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