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No Easy Answers For New England's Cod Crisis

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In an industry where agreement comes slowly, the sudden prospect of huge fishing cuts to protect New England's codfish inspired a quick consensus: Scores of fishermen will be ruined if those cuts are passed.

But it's not clear how or if that pain can be avoided, weeks after new scientific numbers indicated cod in the Gulf of Maine is much weaker than thought.

"We really haven't heard of something that works right now," said Gib Brogan, of the environmental group Oceana.

Fishery science and law present major obstacles to preserving both cod and fishermen.

The law requires scientists to set a limit on how hard fishermen can fish for any species. If they exceed it, they're illegally overfishing and regulators are charged with "immediately" stopping it.

That means, given the grim new estimate of cod's health, fishermen would have to accept a debilitating cut of about 90 percent in their cod catch next year, and there's little wiggle room to avoid it.


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You can fish for another species, so either they fish it till they're completely extinct and THEN they fish for something else or take the cuts now and preserve yours and the Cods future. There's no easy answer but they can't continue to wipe out another species

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The cuts are going to come. Sadly, it will be at the expense of most of the dragger fleet. Many, many of these guys will just have to walk away from their boats.:(

 

I don't think there's much left for these guys to fish for. With fuel prices, ins prices, and labor coast being what they, this is probably it for the NE ground fishing industry.

Be better all learn to like Alaskan pollock and cod.

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The cuts are going to come. Sadly, it will be at the expense of most of the dragger fleet. Many, many of these guys will just have to walk away from their boats.:(

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Me thinks if it comes to that there will be a gumbit buy back, don't ya think?

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Me thinks if it comes to that there will be a gumbit buy back, don't ya think?

 

Wasn't it super low interest, and in some cases interest FREE gubmint loans under which many of these boats were purchased in the first place?

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Wasn't it super low interest, and in some cases interest FREE gubmint loans under which many of these boats were purchased in the first place?

 

Yes, something along those lines, Bob G.

 

When will we ever learn. :dismay:

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On cod, NOAA cannot see the forest for the trees

 

 

Jan 27, 2012 -- At the recent Scientific and Statistical Committee meeting to review Gulf of Maine cod, the Committee voted not to ratify the assessment, a significant legal step that leaves open more Council options for its meeting next week. Further, both environmental groups and the recreational fishing alliance feel the survey is flawed.

 

The defenders of the study argue it is based on 'better science'. But the more they talk, the more some of the science looks like guess work.

 

For example, one of the arguments against the 2008 assessment was that it included large tows in 2003 and 2005 that should be discounted.

 

But you can't have it both ways: if you base much of your assessment on a random survey, you can't throw out the results you don't like. Increasingly treatment of survey data seems too dependent on the outcome of one or two tows.

 

http://www.savingseafood.org/opinion/john-sackton-on-cod-noaa-cannot-see-the-forest-for-the-3.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+SavingSeafoodRss+%28Saving+Seafood%29

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Its funny how when the spring time comes April 16 u go cod fishing and the fish are so stacked that u hook up ever time. Fishfinder loses bottom because of the piles of dence fish. May 1 comes and all the netters are out and its goes from stacked to a desert within a day. Thats were the problem is.

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On cod, NOAA cannot see the forest for the trees

Jan 27, 2012 -- At the recent Scientific and Statistical Committee meeting to review Gulf of Maine cod, the Committee voted not to ratify the assessment, a significant legal step that leaves open more Council options for its meeting next week. Further, both environmental groups and the recreational fishing alliance feel the survey is flawed.

The defenders of the study argue it is based on 'better science'. But the more they talk, the more some of the science looks like guess work.

For example, one of the arguments against the 2008 assessment was that it included large tows in 2003 and 2005 that should be discounted.

But you can't have it both ways: if you base much of your assessment on a random survey, you can't throw out the results you don't like. Increasingly treatment of survey data seems too dependent on the outcome of one or two tows.

http://www.savingseafood.org/opinion/john-sackton-on-cod-noaa-cannot-see-the-forest-for-the-3.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+SavingSeafoodRss+%28Saving+Seafood%29

 

Saving Seafood is a 501©(6) association organized as a non-profit corporation funded by the fishing industry.

 

They should rename it "saving seafood for us only".

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Its funny how when the spring time comes April 16 u go cod fishing and the fish are so stacked that u hook up ever time. Fishfinder loses bottom because of the piles of dence fish. May 1 comes and all the netters are out and its goes from stacked to a desert within a day. Thats were the problem is.

 

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Its funny how when the spring time comes April 16 u go cod fishing and the fish are so stacked that u hook up ever time. Fishfinder loses bottom because of the piles of dence fish. May 1 comes and all the netters are out and its goes from stacked to a desert within a day. Thats were the problem is.

 

Modernization made fishing so efficient that it can wipe out a fishery in a short period of time and it drives the price of the fish down in the market causing fisherman to fish harder to make ends meet.

 

If the fishery was changed to hook and line only, the pressure on the species would be reduced, supply would be down and price would rise to meet demand, fisherman would receive a better price for the fish. They do it in the northwest black cod

 

 

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A Lot of tub trawlers gave up because of the gillnetters. Same price for soft fish.

A lot of the laws are written by desk jockeys with political ties .

If we had less dogfish we might have a few more small Cod making it.

If we had a few less grey seals we might have a few larger fish making it.

If we had more diversity in fish catches we might have a healthier planet

Just a thought.

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