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Food for thought from the Washington Time Sunday Edition

By Robert Knight a spokeman for the American Civil Rights Movement.

 

 

 

 

 

The most consequential election in our lifetime is still 10 months away, but it’s clear from the Obama administration’s order halting South Carolina’s new photo ID law that the Democrats already have brought a gun to a knife fight.

 

How else to describe this naked assault on the right of a state to create minimal requirements to curb voter fraud?

 

On Dec. 23, Assistant Attorney General Thomas E. Perez sent a letter ordering South Carolina to stop enforcing its photo ID law. Mr. Perez, who heads the Civil Rights Division that booted charges against the New Black Panther Party for intimidating voters in Philadelphia in 2008, said South Carolina’s law would disenfranchise thousands of minority voters.

 

South Carolina Attorney General Alan Wilson rejected Mr. Perez’s math and explained on Fox News why the law is necessary. The state Department of Motor Vehicles audited a state Election Commission report that said 239,333 people were registered to vote but had no photo ID. The DMV found that 37,000 were deceased, more than 90,000 had moved to other states, and others had names not matched to IDs. That left only 27,000 people registered without a photo ID but who could vote by signing an affidavit as to their identity.

 

Mr. Wilson told me by phone Thursday that he would file a challenge to the order in federal district court in January. Asked whether he felt South Carolina was being singled out, he declined to speculate on motives. However, citing the National Labor Relations Board’s order to invalidate the voter-approved union card check amendment, the NLRB’s order to stop a new Boeing Co. plant, and the Justice Department’s suit to halt the state’s immigration law, he said, “There certainly is a pattern of the federal government overreaching into South Carolina.”

 

Leading Democrats loudly equate recently enacted photo ID legislation as updated versions of Jim Crow laws that once robbed people of their constitutional right to vote simply because of their race. But photo ID laws and other voter integrity measures cover everyone. Like other states, South Carolina provides photo IDs if a person cannot afford one.

 

The U.S. Constitution empowers the states to enact voting procedures with minimal input from the national government, such as setting the voting age and election days for federal offices. The 15th and 19th amendments ensure that no one is denied the right to vote based on race or sex.

 

In 1965, Congress passed the Voting Rights Act, which authorizes the U.S. attorney general or a three-judge panel of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia to review changes to voting procedures or redistricting in nine states (Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina, Texas and Virginia), some counties in California, Florida, New York, North Carolina and South Dakota, and some townships in Michigan and New Hampshire.

 

Congress did so to counter clearly established patterns of voter intimidation of blacks. Now, the Justice Department, which, under Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. could be renamed the Retribution Department, looks the other way depending on the race of the parties involved.

 

In 2008, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld Indiana’s 2005 photo ID law, which the Democratic Party and several interest groups had challenged as a “severe burden.”

 

But, as American Civil Rights Union attorney Peter Ferrara noted in the group’s friend- of-the-court brief:

 

“No one has been denied the right to vote by the Indiana Voter ID Law. The record clearly establishes without challenge that 99 percent of the Voting Age Population in Indiana already has the required ID, in the form of driver’s licenses, passports, or other identification. Of the remaining 1 percent, senior citizens and the disabled are automatically eligible to vote by absentee ballot, and such absentee voting is exempt from the Voter ID Law.”

 

Does that sound “severe” to you?As Mr. Ferrara notes, “the slight burden of additional paperwork for a fraction of 1 percent, to show who they are and thereby prove their eligibility to vote, cannot come close to outweighing the interests of all legitimate legal voters in maintaining their effective vote.”

 

A bipartisan Commission on Federal Election Reform in 2005 chaired by former President Jimmy Carter and former U.S. Secretary of State James A. Baker III found no evidence that requiring photo IDs would suppress the minority vote. The panel recommended a national photo ID system and a campaign to register voters.

 

In a 2008 column, Mr. Carter and Mr. Baker cited a study by American University’s Center for Democracy and Election Management that echoed the election commission. Among other things, researchers found that in three states - Indiana, Mississippi and Maryland - about 1.2 percent of registered voters had no photo ID.

 

Since the GOP took a majority of governorships and legislatures in 2010 and continued enacting voting safeguards, you can feel the panic in Democratic strongholds.

 

The Obama administration is playing the same race card that Democrats have played for decades. But this is not about race; it’s about whether legitimately cast votes will be wiped out by illegally cast votes.

 

Conversely, in 2000, when Democrat Al Gore challenged George W. Bush’s razor-thin victory in Florida, the media flogged Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris because she refused to overlook “hanging chads” and other questionable vote counting.

 

The stakes are enormous, and the Obama administration is quite aware of the danger posed by an aroused electorate on a level playing field. ith the economy in a ditch, their only hope of stemming the conservative tide might be to rig the returns, especially where political machines still prevail.

 

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Why is the Obama Justice Dept. attacking SC for deciding that photo ID's would cut down on voter fraud?

 

A photo ID is the simpilist way to allow the voter to prove they are who they are.

 

Did SC ask the question in such a way that it is improper?:confused:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I don't see the problem with requiring photo ID. We have had it in CT. here for quite a few election cycles, with nary a complaint or problem. I guess because we're not considered a Redneck yokel state, we get to fly underneath the radar.

 

I think 'progressives' oppose this photo ID rule, because it hampers the great unwashed from being herded to the polls and voting with unrestrictive ease. I'm always up for a reasoned compromise on this issue, but the 'progressives' never have one. They think there is no need for any reform. This is the only time I've ever seen them not wish to change something. :laugh:

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Photo ID's would prevent a portion of the election fraud that might offset this president's mounting lack of appeal. You can hardly blame the DNC for not wanting to give up this trump card. Hell, it is in their lineage: Kennedy, LBJ and so on. Honest elections. The Romney boys are not the only thing the Huffingtonites are afraid of....:D

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As for why SC is under attack, that is simple as well.

 

Barry doesn't have a prayer of winning SC in the election so that state can become the whipping boy in the attempt by the PBO regime to get the various precedent rulings needed to establish extensions of Federal power... like control of state election procedures... and union control of where companies can build plants... etc.

 

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Because democrats may not be able to get union thugs to vote twice and illegal aliens to vote.



and that is why , and there is no other legitimate reason.



who the hell do you people think you are fooling?


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This issue is more evidence that 'progressives' never tire in defending the indefensible. :dismay: Photo ID is an idea whose time has come. Why fight the inevitable fairness of something which ensures & enshrines the concept of 'one man, one vote'? :huh:

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Requiring a photo ID when ID of any form that allowed people to vote in past years is imposing, more or less a "pole tax."

the Constitution specifically prohibits a poll tax in order to vote. For decades, barriers – from poll taxes to literacy tests to grandfather clauses – were used to disenfranchise poor voters and minorities, but we eliminated such unconstitutional abridgments on voting rights. Now, new laws in Texas and elsewhere have the potential to disenfranchise millions of voters who can’t afford to get photo IDs.

The question is, why are Republicans afraid of any person voting who has the right to ?

 

This is just a rebuttal, not a disagreement. Lets try to make this years PG forum a true place for debate and not personal attacks. Might make it a more interesting read.

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Why do Right Wingers Oppose having Gun bans?

 

 

Why I would think it obvious; because gun bans violate the 2nd Amendment. Perhaps the more apt question is, why do 'progressives' demand gun bans. I think the answer is to disarm the general public 'for their own good', and to solidify their noose of control over their desired nascent Utopian Socialist State. But this is neither here nor there, and really has nothing to do with the question at hand. By the by, is having to show a photo ID to purchase a gun, a 'gun tax'? :squid:

 

As to the premise that requiring photo ID is a poll tax, that is the most specious pile of bull spit to come out of the 'progressives' pissy mouths. All states offer a free photo ID card, if requested. And no voter without photo ID is turned away from voting because of it; they merely cast provisional ballots until their identity can be confirmed.

 

Political party functionaires can aid people in need of these photo ID's pre-election much the same way they help with applying for absentee ballots. It is amazing to watch the anti- photo ID folks squirm like worms on a hook over this issue, and I wonder why they so fear a requirement that already exists in many of the Northern States. I think they know of the hanky panky that goes on in election rigging, and these fair, common sense proposals throw a monkey wrench into their retched works. Tough titties. A new dawn of photo ID's is upon us. Get used to it.

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All states offer a free photo ID card, if requested.

 

 

Ain't no such thing as a free ID......SOMEONE has to pay for it...........

 

I am neither a progressive nor a liberal and I view requiring ID as a poll tax.

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Ain't no such thing as a free ID......SOMEONE has to pay for it...........

I am neither a progressive nor a liberal and I view requiring ID as a poll tax.

 

Have any opinion on the SC law that said ID's would be paid for by the state if necessary?

 

Do you view it as a poll tax if the IDs are free?

 

Do you really view the ID as a poll tax, or only the thought that an ID costs money?

 

Why doesnt the "somebody has to pay for it" apply to other stuff, like the fact that to vote you have to arrive at the polls clothed... and some people have their clothing purchased for them by the taxpayers? Or the buses used to get people to the polls? etc. the list of taxpayer funded stuff people get is endless.... how are ID's different from all the other stuff purchased for them?

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