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Capitalism is better than Communism

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Does anyone dispute this fact?



 



Communism is a utopian ideal that I don't believe can exist.



 



So all we will get to see implemented is a bastardized form,



and the bastardized form of this impossible utopia is a form of Government that is oppressive.



 



imperfect Capitalism is far better than imperfect Communism.



 



 



not many people in the US truly support Communism,



 



and THAT is a problem for Democrats.



 



I like Capitalism but I don't believe in Free Markets,



I believe we need a certain amount of restrictions and regulations.



 



as long as Republicans want LESS restriction and regulations than Democrats do,



they can point their finger and denounce us as Socialists,



and that "wins" an emotional argument.



 



because nobody really likes commies.


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My best friend wrote the world FREEDOM with his blood he is executed by the reds after a quick drumbeat court trial. My father in law wrote in the FREEDOM in the way only the tyrants understand with a Big CBU on their armored division he paid the price with 17 years in captivity. Senator MC Cain worked for the release. Forever I will vote for the communists with my feet and my pen ( the gun is no longer an option).

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Does anyone dispute this fact?

 

Communism is a utopian ideal that I don't believe can exist.

 

So all we will get to see implemented is a bastardized form,

and the bastardized form of this impossible utopia is a form of Government that is oppressive.

 

imperfect Capitalism is far better than imperfect Communism.

 

 

not many people in the US truly support Communism,

 

and THAT is a problem for Democrats.

 

I like Capitalism but I don't believe in Free Markets,

I believe we need a certain amount of restrictions and regulations.

 

as long as Republicans want LESS restriction and regulations than Democrats do,

they can point their finger and denounce us as Socialists,

and that "wins" an emotional argument.

 

because nobody really likes commies.

 

You're right; but the less informed can be stirred up just by mentioning the word "Communist". The USA is partially Socialist but again the less informed can't see that it's not Russia-style "communism"; why it never was except maybe at the very beginning. As always it "disintegrated" into pure Totalitarianism becuase people are like that. ALL people...

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that is where the "nuanced" crap comes from.



it's in a Democrats best interest to explain exactly what they stand for, because it's reasonable.



It's in a Republicans best interest to throw around generalities, because when discussing absolutes THEY sound better.



 



"I'm for free markets and personal responsibility, the Libs want a government run nanny state".


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Does anyone dispute this fact?

 

Communism is a utopian ideal that I don't believe can exist.

 

So all we will get to see implemented is a bastardized form,

and the bastardized form of this impossible utopia is a form of Government that is oppressive.

 

imperfect Capitalism is far better than imperfect Communism.

 

 

not many people in the US truly support Communism,

 

and THAT is a problem for Democrats.

 

I like Capitalism but I don't believe in Free Markets,

I believe we need a certain amount of restrictions and regulations.

 

as long as Republicans want LESS restriction and regulations than Democrats do,

they can point their finger and denounce us as Socialists,

and that "wins" an emotional argument.

 

because nobody really likes commies.

 

 

 

 

[THESIS]><[ANTITHESIS]=[sYNTHESIS]

 

 

Prominent unionist Andy Stern does disupute that capitalism is better than communism, he proffers a radical antithesis: Junk American capitalism and embrace communist China's economic model:

 

 

From Stern's piece published this week:

 

"The conservative-preferred, free-market fundamentalist, shareholder-only model—so successful in the 20th century—is being thrown onto the trash heap of history in the 21st century. In an era when countries need to become economic teams, Team USA's results—a jobless decade, 30 years of flat median wages, a trade deficit, a shrinking middle class and phenomenal gains in wealth but only for the top 1%—are pathetic.

 

This should motivate leaders to rethink, rather than double down on an empirically failing free-market extremism. As painful and humbling as it may be, America needs to do what a once-dominant business or sports team would do when the tide turns: study the ingredients of its competitors' success.

 

While we debate, Team China rolls on. Our delegation witnessed China's people-oriented development in Chongqing, a city of 32 million in Western China, which is led by an aggressive and popular Communist Party leader—Bo Xilai. A skyline of cranes are building roughly 1.5 million square feet of usable floor space daily—including, our delegation was told, 700,000 units of public housing annually..."

 

 

What does Stern mean by "shareholder-only model"?

 

 

If Stern were a Chinese citizen, living in China, and his proffer was to junk Chinese communism in favor of American capitalism, would he declare his position as publicly as he did in America?

 

 

 

 

 

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Stern has no skin in the game.

 

He's like a guy that sits at the poker table and says "I'll just watch".

 

after each hand You keep sayin: "Deal you in?"

 

He keeps sayin: "No, I'll just watch... but you should reallly press that deuce over tre house against that guy's Ace / Ten"

 

I'll pass.

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My best friend wrote the world FREEDOM with his blood he is executed by the reds after a quick drumbeat court trial. My father in law wrote in the FREEDOM in the way only the tyrants understand with a Big CBU on their armored division he paid the price with 17 years in captivity. Senator MC Cain worked for the release. Forever I will vote for the communists with my feet and my pen ( the gun is no longer an option).

 

The Bolsheviks murdered my Russian friend's Menshevik father.

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"I like Capitalism BUT ...."

 

When I saw Frankie make this post topic, I KNEW the word "BUT" would be in there. He is an unrepentent socialist but lies to others and himself by saying he isn't. The lil leftie leebs are fond of saying the failure of Communism and socialism around the world is because the right form hasn't been tried yet. That is NOT why communism and socialism have failed EVERYWHERE and is failing everywhere. Both lead to totalitarianism and both are economic failures. The lil leftie leebs are simply not bright enough to understand this.

 

I can see 11/12 from my house

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"I like Capitalism BUT ...."

When I saw Frankie make this post topic, I KNEW the word "BUT" would be in there. He is an unrepentent socialist but lies to others and himself by saying he isn't. The lil leftie leebs are fond of saying the failure of Communism and socialism around the world is because the right form hasn't been tried yet. That is NOT why communism and socialism have failed EVERYWHERE and is failing everywhere. Both lead to totalitarianism and both are economic failures. The lil leftie leebs are simply not bright enough to understand this.

I can see 11/12 from my house

 

Do you and your friends and relatives support police and fire fighters ?

 

 

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fish'nmagician View Post

 

 

It's in a Republicans best interest to throw around generalities, because when discussing absolutes THEY sound better.

 

 

 

"I'm for free markets and personal responsibility, the Libs want a government run nanny state".

 

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Originally Posted by Whopper Bubba View Post

 

"I like Capitalism BUT ...."

 

When I saw Frankie make this post topic, I KNEW the word "BUT" would be in there. He is an unrepentent socialist but lies to others and himself by saying he isn't. The lil leftie leebs are fond of saying the failure of Communism and socialism around the world is because the right form hasn't been tried yet. That is NOT why communism and socialism have failed EVERYWHERE and is failing everywhere. Both lead to totalitarianism and both are economic failures. The lil leftie leebs are simply not bright enough to understand this.

 

I can see 11/12 from my house

 

the portion in Red is c lassic PG right winger strawman.

 

the portion in Blue is classic PG right winger deny what you just read.

 

 

 

Communism fails because it's an impossible utopia.  it doesn't matter if you TRY the right form, the 'right form" will never exist.

 

it's fatally flawed by the degree of authority needed to make the decisions necessary to implement communism.

 

a dictatorship will form, always.

 

 

 

 

 

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