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More proof the whole Global Warming thing is a big political lie:

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Liars! Algore and his merry band of fraudulent political hoaxters busted once again.



 



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Climategate 2.0: New E-Mails Rock The Global Warming Debate







A new batch of 5,000 emails among scientists central to the assertion that humans are causing a global warming crisis were anonymously released to the public yesterday, igniting a new firestorm of controversy nearly two years to the day after similar emails ignited the Climategate scandal.



Three themes are emerging from the newly released emails: (1) prominent scientists central to the global warming debate are taking measures to conceal rather than disseminate underlying data and discussions; (2) these scientists view global warming as a political “cause” rather than a balanced scientific inquiry and (3) many of these scientists frankly admit to each other that much of the science is weak and dependent on deliberate manipulation of facts and data.



Regarding scientific transparency, a defining characteristic of science is the open sharing of scientific data, theories and procedures so that independent parties, and especially skeptics of a particular theory or hypothesis, can replicate and validate asserted experiments or observations. Emails between Climategate scientists, however, show a concerted effort to hide rather than disseminate underlying evidence and procedures.



“I’ve been told that IPCC is above national FOI [Freedom of Information] Acts. One way to cover yourself and all those working in AR5 would be to delete all emails at the end of the process,”writes Phil Jones, a scientist working with the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), in a newly released email.



 



“Any work we have done in the past is done on the back of the research grants we get – and has to be well hidden,” Jones writes in another newly released email. “I’ve discussed this with the main funder (U.S. Dept of Energy) in the past and they are happy about not releasing the original station data.”



The original Climategate emails contained similar evidence of destroying information and data that the public would naturally assume would be available according to freedom of information principles. “Mike, can you delete any emails you may have had with Keith [briffa] re AR4 [uN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change 4th Assessment]?” Jones wrote to Penn State University scientist Michael Mann in an email released in Climategate 1.0. “Keith will do likewise. … We will be getting Caspar [Ammann] to do likewise. I see that CA [the Climate Audit Web site] claim they discovered the 1945 problem in the Nature paper!!”



The new emails also reveal the scientists’ attempts to politicize the debate and advance predetermined outcomes.



“The trick may be to decide on the main message and use that to guid[e] what’s included and what is left out” of IPCC reports, writes Jonathan Overpeck, coordinating lead author for the IPCC’s most recent climate assessment.



“I gave up on [Georgia Institute of Technology climate professor] Judith Curry a while ago. I don’t know what she thinks she’s doing, but its not helping the cause,” wrote Mann in another newly released email.








 


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Originally Posted by John M View Post

 

pffffftttttt global warming is so 2009.....its climate change now.....duh

 

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LOL, they changed the name, it's still a gig lying scam, though.

 

 

 

 

 

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It's good that there's no source for this hidden trove of emails. That way, nobody can follow a link back to the source, read it, and find that it's a misrepresentation, as with Little's last post about the Greenland icecap.

 

Branford Jeff, I don't suppose you'd like to identify the source ... ? Possibly "anonymous?"

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There's always gonna be idiots trying to dispute the obvious.

 

Tom, man, no need to be so self-deprecating. It's kind of a nice change to see such honestly, but really, man, don't be so hard on yourself. 

 

 

 

Facts are, AGW is a lie, these emails just show further that it's all one big political lie, and the data is all faked and manipulated.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Tom, man, no need to be so self-deprecating. It's kind of a nice change to see such honestly, but really, man, don't be so hard on yourself. 

 

Facts are, AGW is a lie, these emails just show further that it's all one big political lie, and the data is all faked and manipulated.

 

 

 

 

Jeffery(hippo), is lying a bad thing?

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Well the first round of leaked [read, stolen] emails was a whole pile of steaming poo-poo....let's see what this is all about....

 

I heard that steaming poo poo leads to global warming. :laugh:

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what is the obvious ? im a little confused as to what is obvious.the obvious thing to me is that it may be getting a bit warmer,yes but why is the real question.there is nothing obvious to answer why.if you are indicating that is obvious that this is man made please show me the proof.im aware of climate change as it has been going on since the beginning of time & there is proof of that.

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what is the obvious ? im a little confused as to what is obvious.the obvious thing to me is that it may be getting a bit warmer,yes but why is the real question.there is nothing obvious to answer why.if you are indicating that is obvious that this is man made please show me the proof.im aware of climate change as it has been going on since the beginning of time & there is proof of that.

 

Follow the money and you will find the real truth behind global warming.

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I'm all for looking into what is causing global warming, current models notwithstanding, I would like to consider other causes. That being said, I am always incredibly leery of people who commit crimes to make their case.

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