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I was cleaning out the freezer and found a trash bag stuffed in the back with a fish in it I caught this summer. I was out tuna fishing in August out of the saco river in Maine and with no luck with the tuna we decided to try cod/haddock fishing on tantas ledge. We were in somewhere between 200 and 250 feet of water if my memory serves me right. We were catching cod then I hooked into this fish in the picture. At first I thought it was a haddock because of the color but when I got it in the boat I did not recognize it. We did not have a camera so we decided to keep it and figure out what it was. Well when I got home from the trip I was so exhausted I threw it in the back of the freezer and forgot about it until now. It looks somewhat similar to a haddock silver with a lateral line but the head and mouth don't fit for a haddock. It also has a set of small teeth all the way around the jaw. I tried looking online but could not find anything that resembled it. [img=

 

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Its a Whiting...used to very common here in NJ, they dragged em to near extinction. Still a fishery on the GOM

 

I think you might be right, but am I wrong in thinking that's pretty big for a whiting?

 

 

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Its funny when I look up whiting it does not look the same. When I looked up pacific whiting it looks almost exact. Funny thing is I guess I caught a pacific whiting in the atlantic. I am not sure how big whiting get but this one was about 18 inches.

 

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Silver hake (whiting, the fish in the photo) are in the same genus as haddock. They are in the merluccid hake family. The fatter, slimier, eel-tailed hakes (red hake) are in a seperate family, the phycid hake family. Wow, if I only could remember stuff that actually mattered......

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It is a whiting.....the reason you don't see many that big anymore is because they got fished so hard...........

 

Sooo....

 

I'm right in thinking that's a pretty big whiting, yes?

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I think you might be right, but am I wrong in thinking that's pretty big for a whiting?

 

I too used to live in Jersey as a kid back in the 70's and used to fish on a fleet out of Belmar(sp) for these fish...and we caught plenty of larger ones like that - if memory serves me correctly, we used to call the bigger ones 'baseball bats'...we basically used the same high/low rigs as people use for cod/haddock. Since I've lived in MA, I think I only caught one little 12" feller...LOL

 

Btw, from what I understand, there used to be strong run of 'frost fish' (aka whiting/silver hake) during the colder months in RI, perhaps near Newport (????)...However, that was before my time here in New England and I think it's pretty much a dead fishery now....The only MA whiting I see now are in pics posted here of whiting taken out of a cleaned striper caught from the canal (makes me wonder why people don't catch the whiting directly there)

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Interesting...

 

A bit sad, but interesting.

 

The only whiting I've ever caught were the ones I dragged up while scalloping about 10 years ago and they were always in the sub 10-inch range. Never seen one much bigger than that, so that's why I was curious about how big they actually run.

 

Kinda sad there aren't really any larger ones around anymore, but I guess that's par for the course as far as pretty much any fishery goes these days. :(

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I too used to live in Jersey as a kid back in the 70's and used to fish on a fleet out of Belmar(sp) for these fish...and we caught plenty of larger ones like that - if memory serves me correctly, we used to call the bigger ones 'baseball bats'...we basically used the same high/low rigs as people use for cod/haddock. Since I've lived in MA, I think I only caught one little 12" feller...LOL

Btw, from what I understand, there used to be strong run of 'frost fish' (aka whiting/silver hake) during the colder months in RI, perhaps near Newport (????)...However, that was before my time here in New England and I think it's pretty much a dead fishery now....The only MA whiting I see now are in pics posted here of whiting taken out of a cleaned striper caught from the canal (makes me wonder why people don't catch the whiting directly there)

 

I have caught a few over the years in my canal lobster pots....they were not as big as the one pictured though and I did manage a couple of small ones on a sabiki rig a couple of june's ago........

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