NJ: Gov takes over AC; Meadowlands Race Track for sale; Xanadu is ghey

[SallyGrowler]

Plans in the works:

 

Atlantic City's entertainment and gaming districts would become an independent city within a city overseen by state government. That includes the casinos, the marina, beachfront and Boardwalk areas. Those parts of the city would all be put under the administration of a state authority directly answerable to governor.

Don't know if I agree with this.

 

New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority would be all but disbanded, becoming simply a landlord for the facilities it now operates.

I'd ratrher Privatize it 100%; I don't believe NJ government has proved it's worth as a proprietor.

 

The Meadowlands Racetrack could be sold for a token $1, or turned into an off-track wagering facility without live horse racing. The plan also recommends that the Izod Center arena be privatized or sold.

Sell the real estate. Enough with the BS.

 

In addition, the state would help re-finance the long-stalled Xanadu project in the Meadowlands, enabling a new developer to take control of the garish, high-visibility retail and entertainment complex alongside the New Jersey Turnpike that many consider an embarrassment.

I say wrecking ball. Sell the McGreevey favor. Friggin eye-sore.

 

Financial aid to help complete Xanadu would be contingent on changing the building's much-hated mutli-color exterior, and requiring that it be an entertainment complex, not simply another mall.

It looks like something Mike Brady (Brady Bunch) would have designed.

 

Did I say wrecking ball?

 

There has been legislation introduced that would allow slots or video lottery terminals at the racetrack, as well as serious discussions about turning Xanadu, which was never competed, into a casino serving the metropolitan area.

That would kill AC.

Wrecking ball.

 

Or - go back to the folks at Cabelas - sell them the property - ease-up on the stupid state gun laws and Let them build whatever they want.

 

the state would either put up its own bonding or federal Recovery Zone Facilities bonds, charging the debt against future tax revenue. In return for the financing, state would expect to get an equity position in the project. Financing would be contingent on the Xanadu exterior being redesigned.

 

If the Xanadu project is not put back on track by year's end, the report said the state should proceed with foreclosure.

[HatterasJack]

Plans in the works:

 

 

Don't know if I agree with this.

 

 

I'd ratrher Privatize it 100%; I don't believe NJ government has proved it's worth as a proprietor.

 

 

Sell the real estate. Enough with the BS.

 

 

I say wrecking ball. Sell the McGreevey favor. Friggin eye-sore.

 

 

It looks like something Mike Brady (Brady Bunch) would have designed.

 

 

Did I say wrecking ball?

 

 

That would kill AC.

 

Wrecking ball.

 

 

Or - go back to the folks at Cabelas - sell them the property - ease-up on the stupid state gun laws and Let them build whatever they want.

 

I like all of it

 

 

especially the first item on taking over the casino district

 

 

I loved the way he said the AC municipal government is incompetent and unable to manage this district after 30 years of mismanagement

 

 

and some asshat council member already said he'd take it to the courts with a "not on my watch" remark

 

 

go get em Chris - take names and kick ass!!

[Kings over Queens]

Perhaps I'm reading this wrong, but is there a suggestion that the NJ Government take over what is now private industry? I'm reading it wrong, right?

[SallyGrowler]

Perhaps I'm reading this wrong, but is there a suggestion that the NJ Government take over what is now private industry? I'm reading it wrong, right?

 

 

you are reading correct. But it will be "sold" to the public as AC becoming (sort of) Districrt of Trenton.

 

I'm on the fence, but my gut says no good.

[HatterasJack]

Perhaps I'm reading this wrong, but is there a suggestion that the NJ Government take over what is now private industry? I'm reading it wrong, right?

 

take over of all municipal powers in the casino district - from policing to garbage disposal

 

 

a new state authority would take over control of security, planning and traffic in the district. Boardwalk Hall and the Convention Center would be taken over, and the Atlantic City Convention and Visitor's Authority would be closed

[SallyGrowler]

take over of all municipal powers in the casino district - from policing to garbage disposal

 

 

So you have State Police patrolling street walkers?

[HatterasJack]

So you have State Police patrolling street walkers?

 

NO!

 

 

they'd drive them over to a fleabag motel on the Blackhorse Pike and help them make a buck !

[TimS]

NO!

 

 

they'd drive them over to a fleabag motel on the Blackhorse Pike and help them make a buck !

 

And then take .75 of it

[superstriper]

interesting that a rep is wanting the gov to take over everything and run it -a bit ironic as they are the party that likes the hands off no gov intervention approach-will the gov soon be called King too? Let the record show I did vote for him as the dems lost the right to have my vote.

 

As far as Xanadu goes I think there should be lots of criminal charges for anybody that signed off on that project-NJ has made some awful moves over the years and that might be tops on the list

 

The Dems really messed up NJ so the reps have their chance to try and fix it-I do think the gov is trying and agree with some of his policies but he is also displaying a fair amount of hypocrisy as well.

[HatterasJack]

interesting that a rep is wanting the gov to take over everything and run it -a bit ironic as they are the party that likes the hands off no gov intervention approach-will the gov soon be called King too? Let the record show I did vote for him as the dems lost the right to have my vote.

 

 

As far as Xanadu goes I think there should be lots of criminal charges for anybody that signed off on that project-NJ has made some awful moves over the years and that might be tops on the list

 

 

The Dems really messed up NJ so the reps have their chance to try and fix it-I do think the gov is trying and agree with some of his policies but he is also displaying a fair amount of hypocrisy as well.

 

but he's not an emperor and therefore he has to work with a Democratic Legislature - which is why the 2.5 cap is a law and not an amendment

 

 

even this state gaming approach will require legislative approval and the sides are dividing on geographic lines - north vs south Jersey

 

 

north wants the Meadowlands saved and state money poured in with the creation of video gaming to compete with Yonkers and soon Aqueduct

 

 

south doesn't want any part of that because that could severely hurt AC

 

 

Christie is banking/betting that the southern democrats (aka Sweeney) can overcome the northern dem's (that weak space holder Oliver)

[lichum]

Plans in the works:

 

 

It looks like something Mike Brady (Brady Bunch) would have designed.

 

 

[jonesg]

Sounds like another union takeover, now they want to own towns.

The inhabitants can all pay dues.

[SallyGrowler]

interesting that a rep is wanting the gov to take over everything and run it -a bit ironic as they are the party that likes the hands off no gov intervention approach-will the gov soon be called King too? Let the record show I did vote for him as the dems lost the right to have my vote.

 

As far as Xanadu goes I think there should be lots of criminal charges for anybody that signed off on that project-NJ has made some awful moves over the years and that might be tops on the list

 

The Dems really messed up NJ so the reps have their chance to try and fix it-I do think the gov is trying and agree with some of his policies but he is also displaying a fair amount of hypocrisy as well.

 

 

Actually - the more I read abouty it, it's not a take-over of private assets or real properties.

 

The state already has the consitutional ability to regulate the Casinos, the Race tracks, and the authorities (Racing authority is a state agency) as well as the properties controlled by those authorities.

 

However, I cannot find law or precedent either in the verbose state constitution or in a general scan of NJ case law where the Executive branch has the ability to re-district or sub-divide an existing municipality without a petition from said municipality visa-vis legislature or any emergency provision approved by the constition or the legislature.

[SallyGrowler]

Section VI (New Jersey Constitution - Legislative branch)

 

2. The Legislature may enact general laws under which municipalities, other than counties, may adopt zoning ordinances limiting and restricting to specified districts and regulating therein, buildings and structures, according to their construction, and the nature and extent of their use, and the nature and extent of the uses of land, and the exercise of such authority shall be deemed to be within the police power of the State. Such laws shall be subject to repeal or alteration by the Legislature.

 

10. Upon petition by the governing body of any municipal corporation formed for local government, or of any county, and by vote of two-thirds of all the members of each house, the Legislature may pass private, special or local laws regulating the internal affairs of the municipality or county. The petition shall be authorized in a manner to be prescribed by general law and shall specify the general nature of the law sought to be passed. Such law shall become operative only if it is adopted by ordinance of the governing body of the municipality or county or by vote of the legally qualified voters thereof. The Legislature shall prescribe in such law or by general law the method of adopting such law, and the manner in which the ordinance of adoption may be enacted or the vote taken, as the case may be.

 

11. The provisions of this Constitution and of any law concerning municipal corporations formed for local government, or concerning counties, shall be liberally construed in their favor. The powers of counties and such municipal corporations shall include not only those granted in express terms but also those of necessary or fair implication, or incident to the powers expressly conferred, or essential thereto, and not inconsistent with or prohibited by this Constitution or by law.

[superstriper]

but he's not an emperor and therefore he has to work with a Democratic Legislature - which is why the 2.5 cap is a law and not an amendment

 

 

even this state gaming approach will require legislative approval and the sides are dividing on geographic lines - north vs south Jersey

 

 

north wants the Meadowlands saved and state money poured in with the creation of video gaming to compete with Yonkers and soon Aqueduct

 

 

south doesn't want any part of that because that could severely hurt AC

 

 

Christie is banking/betting that the southern democrats (aka Sweeney) can overcome the northern dem's (that weak space holder Oliver)

 

I know we some how as a state voted against sports betting-I would like to see Xanadu turned into a casino/sports book-pay the vig as a tax to the state-sports betting is huge money-kind of dumb I can bet on a horse but cant bet on a person-a bet is a bet