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"I'm not really thinking about boxing right now," Mayweather said. "I'm just relaxing. I fought about 60 days ago, so I'm just enjoying myself, enjoying life, enjoying my family and enjoying my vacation."

 

I still think Mayweather would win this one. He keeps ducking Manny though.

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I agree I think may wins also but this fight is just too frustrating. I am done with it,if it happens it happens their is so many good fights coming up. Cloud vs. Glen Johnson,the whole july 31 ppv card is good stuff. I am a die hard fan the fight I am really interested in is Chad Dawson vs. Jean Pascal in Canada. I have really been rooting for Bradley hard since he came off the deck from a huge left hook from Holt. Great matchups at 140 go get em Timmy.

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21

Jul

2010

Manny Pacquiao Update

 

By Nick Giongco

Hall of Fame promoter Bob Arum is planning on a trip to Monterrey, the Mexican city being eyed to host Manny Pacquiao's Nov. 13 fight with Antonio Margarito. Arum, chilling out in his Los Angeles vacation home, said Pacquiao's adviser Mike Koncz would also make the trip there as they explore the possibilities of staging Pacquiao's bout there. The decision to visit Monterrey was arrived at Monday as Arum began holding talks with prospective Pacquiao opponents: Puerto Rican Miguel Cotto and the Mexican Margarito.

Regarding the press statement that Floyd Mayweather issued on Monday, Arum could not help but blow his top.

A press statement was issued by Mayweather adviser Leonard Ellerbe, denying that a negotiation for a fight between Pacquiao and Mayweather ever took place.

"Here are the facts. Al Haymon, (Golden Boy Promotions CEO) Richard Schaefer and myself speak to each other on a regular basis and the truth is no negotiations have ever taken place nor was there ever a deal agreed upon by Team Mayweather or Floyd Mayweather to fight Manny Pacquiao on Nov. 13," said Mayweather adviser Leonard Ellerbe.

"Either (HBO Sports president) Ross Greenburg or Bob Arum is not telling the truth, but history tells us who is lying," added Ellerbe in the statement.

Arum had set a July 16 deadline for Mayweather to respond, something Mayweather totally ignored. A day after the ultimatum lapsed, Mayweather told the Associated Press that he was not interested in fighting this year.

Arum said he was in constant touch with Greenburg regarding supposed negotiations that took place the past several weeks and wondered why would Ellerbe say that since there was even a gag order in place.

Even GBP owner Oscar De La Hoya was interviewed by a Spanish-language TV station a few weeks ago, saying a deal was close to being sealed.

What Arum has learned from this incident is that it's a lot easier dealing with his arch-nemesis Don King than "these guys."

"I feel like I am (like) in (an episode of) Twilight Zone. Don is normal compared to these guys," said Arum.

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View Post"I'm not really thinking about boxing right now," Mayweather said. "I'm just relaxing. I fought about 60 days ago, so I'm just enjoying myself, enjoying life, enjoying my family and enjoying my vacation."

 

I still think Mayweather would win this one. He keeps ducking Manny though.

 

Mayweather is ducking Manny because Manny is going to embarrass the ****E out of him and his loud mouth. Pacman is beast, let's not be silly.

 

Look at how the De La Hoya/Mayweather and De La Hoya/Pacman fights turned out. Mayweather can't duck and counter Pacman like he did with Oscar. Manny doesn't get tired and he is combo's are always 5-7 punches. Mayweathers jab would be useless.

 

But I have also given up on waiting for this fight. Boxing is a tough sport to get excited about lately.

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toaster it is very ignorant of you to compare may/hoya and pac/hoya if you know anything about boxing styles make fights. If you want to play that angle then you can compare marquez/pac and marquez/mayweather. And don't say it was cause of the weight of may cause their is no way that played a role in that fight. Pacman style plays to floyds strengths. Please stop saying that floyd is scared of pac he is a pro fighter thats been in the gym since he was 5. With the exception of Tyson's opponents fighters by nature have no fear of another man. It feels good debating some boxing keep the greatest sport alive.

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View Posttoaster it is very ignorant of you to compare may/hoya and pac/hoya if you know anything about boxing styles make fights. If you want to play that angle then you can compare marquez/pac and marquez/mayweather. And don't say it was cause of the weight of may cause their is no way that played a role in that fight. Pacman style plays to floyds strengths. Please stop saying that floyd is scared of pac he is a pro fighter thats been in the gym since he was 5. With the exception of Tyson's opponents fighters by nature have no fear of another man. It feels good debating some boxing keep the greatest sport alive.

 

 

 

Then fight him then! Boxing is affected by weight that why there's different divisions. Floyd still needed the added weight just to make sure the smaller Marquez had no chance. All I can say is....Floyd should man up and stop cherry picking your opponent. Fight Pacman! It's the fight that everyone of us wants to see.

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IMHO, I would rather see PBF vrs PW or Berto!! Why? As much as I would love to see Pac knock PBF out....not sure he can...or will even win a decision....PW is a larger fella and it would be nice to see PBF fight the naturally larger guy....which he rarely does....

 

Now, heres your cut n paste of the day.....

 

 

ARUM-HAYMON: THE FEUD BEHIND THE FAILED MEGA-FIGHT.

By G. Leon

 

What now?

If you haven't figured this out by now, the the Al Haymon-Bob Arum mega-feud is the reason the Floyd Mayweather-Manny Pacquiao mega-fightis not a done deal. It's a pissing contest ladies and gentleman and now we're all supposed to think it's raining. Bob Arum promotes Manny Pacquiao, Miguel Cotto and Antonio Margarito, the ONLY three names mentioned during his ridiculous 3am conference call following the expiration of the "exclusivity" period to negotiate the Mayweather fight. Al Haymon represents Floyd Mayweather Jr, Paul Williams and Andre Berto. Arum's basically saying, I can move Pacquiao without Mayweather for quite some time. Can Haymon or Machiavelli, as the Bobfather often calls him, rival Arum's feat and officially become that which he controls, a boxing promoter?

 

AL HAYMON: Everybody in the business knows that Haymon already has far more juice with HBO and Showtime than every promotional outfit not named after De La Hoya.

 

Those really in the know, are aware of the controlling pressure tactics he implements on promoters from the coast to coast, most times without a signed contract between promoter and champisonship caliber fighters who are regularly featured on HBO.

 

Floyd Mayweather Jr is Al Haymon's top priority, though Haymon has cleverly used the Mayweather relationship to advance other clients of his such as Andre Berto and the late great Vernon Forrest. Berto and Forrest both fought for titles previously held by Mayweather on HBO against Mickey Rodriguez and Carlos Baldomir respectively.

 

Haymon has also carefully kept Paul Williams, a potential stylistic problem for Mayweather, at least one division above Floyd at all times. (Twice Arum enjoyed wasting the time of Haymon and Williams for Kelly Pavlik fights that didn't happen.)

 

Haymon was throughy involved in making the Mosley-Berto fight go away so the Mayweather-Mosley fight could take place.

 

The move was made so hastily that Haymon dismissed Berto and the leverage he held at that point in time. Failing to secure Berto and his compensation, as the opponent for Mosley's next bout should he lose to Mayweather lead to HBO's Ross Greenburg coming on the record sounding quite disenchanted with every Berto fight that doesn't involve Mosley.

 

THE BOBFATHER: Arum didn't take long to show his hand. After they were unable to solidify the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight in late 2009 and the first week of 2010, Arum quickly closed a deal for Pacquiao to fight Joshua Clottey.

 

Clottey was King Kong compared to Paul Malignaggi and Nate Campbell, two of the names under Mayweather consideration prior to the tragedy in Haiti that lead to Mosley becoming available to fight Mayweather.

 

Why wouldn't Arum want to keep all of his moves in house?

 

Forget about the site fee, the gate, the foreign sales and the sponsorship, the Manny Pacquiao-Joshua Clottey fight generated 700,000 buys or approximately $17.75M in NET PPV revenue.

 

Boxingtalk understands that Pacquiao and Clottey did not make a COMBINED $10M

 

WHAT NOW?: Top Rank will again eat heartily off of the Pacquiao-Margarito fight regardless of how many fans and writers it horrifies.

 

Haymon can keep Mayweather's move under his representation. Will he? That's the question.

 

Certainly boxing fans would welcome Mayweather Vs. Paul Williams or Andre Berto with open arms. HappyWave.gif (<----------j71)

 

Unlike Pacquiao-Margarito, either of these fights would embraced by the boxing publc.

 

Haymon, who once outlawyered Arum out of his promotional rights to Floyd Mayweather, and rebounded with Mayweather-Mosley when things appeared dreary, can outdo the Bobfather once again.

 

Haymon has to do what Arum doubts he will, something he hasn't done before, make a fight featuring two guys he represents.

 

If either of Haymon's in house fights are not made, perhaps Team Mayweather is content to wait for the sure thing with Pacquiao. You see Mayweather hasn't fought somebody making their HBO PPV debut in quite some time and a figure lower than the 700,000 Pacquiao did with Clottey would be disastrous.

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View PostAs much as I would love to see Pac knock PBF out....not sure he can...or will even win a decision....PW is a larger fella and it would be nice to see PBF fight the naturally larger guy....which he rarely does....

 

 

I agree with what you said but it would be nice to see the fight anyway even if gayweather wins. I think to say one or the other would dominate 100% is really tough. They both have their strengths I really hate PBF but I could see him winning the fight as I could see pacman winning. Would love to see gayweather knocked out cold.

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View PostI agree with what you said but it would be nice to see the fight anyway even if gayweather wins. I think to say one or the other would dominate 100% is really tough. They both have their strengths I really hate PBF but I could see him winning the fight as I could see pacman winning. Would love to see gayweather knocked out cold.

 

 

This is the reason boxing fans want to see this fight because it is suppose to be even. Either can win the fight. But Floyd keep on running....Finally this writer eventually got it!

 

Mayweather exposed as chicken

 

iole.png By Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports 4 hours, 34 minutes ago

 

 

HBO Sports president Ross Greenburg released a four-paragraph, five-sentence statement Monday which cast doubt upon the veracity of Floyd Mayweather Jr.; Mayweather's best friend, Mayweather Promotions CEO Leonard Ellerbe; Golden Boy Promotions president Oscar De La Hoya and Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer and which forever eliminated any doubt about Mayweather's intention: He's ducking Manny Pacquiao.

There can be no other rational explanation.

More From Kevin Iole

 

Welcome to "Mayweather in Wonderland," where they try to convince you that up is down, the grass is blue and the sky is green. Never mind that Mayweather has tarnished, perhaps forever, his legacy as one of the best boxers of all time. Given his disinclination to fight Pacquiao, it's hard to regard him as the best fighter of his own time.

Mayweather was nowhere to be found on Monday, still on vacation, apparently oblivious to the millions of boxing fans desperate to hear a word about his intentions. If Mayweather cared about his legacy, if he cared about the sport that has made him rich and famous, he wouldn't have been invisible the last few weeks while allowing Ellerbe to spew a lot of mumbo jumbo.

Mayweather and his cronies attempted to insinuate that Top Rank chairman Bob Arum was being deceitful when he said he'd been negotiating for a Mayweather-Pacquiao fight with Greenburg serving as the middle man. Greenburg and Arum have not had the strongest of relationships, while Greenburg has an extraordinarily cozy relationship with Golden Boy. If Arum were lying, their frequently contentious history together suggests that Greenburg would have called him on it immediately.

Greenburg, though, clearly sided with Arum, when he said, in part, "I had been negotiating with a representative from each side since May 2nd ... "

That's what Arum, who promotes Pacquiao, has steadfastly claimed for weeks. On June 30, Arum told Yahoo! Sports that "all issues were resolved" and that the only outstanding matter was whether Mayweather wanted to fight in 2010 or 2011. Arum then set a July 16, 11:59 p.m. deadline on Mayweather to accept the deal. On a conference call in the early morning hours of July 17, Arum announced the deadline had passed without word from Mayweather and that he was pursuing a fight for Pacquiao with either Antonio Margarito or Miguel Cotto.

Ellerbe, though, released a statement on July 19 that was the beginning of the end for Team Mayweather's credibility. Ellerbe disputed that talks had even taken place. "Here are the facts," the statement read. "Al Haymon, Richard Schaefer and myself speak to each other on a regular basis and the truth is no negotiations have ever taken place nor was there ever a deal agreed upon by Team Mayweather or Floyd Mayweather to fight Manny Pacquiao on November 13. Either Ross Greenburg or Bob Arum is not telling the truth, but history tells us who is lying."

That led many in the media to quickly assail Arum's credibility and for Schaefer and De La Hoya to issue self-righteous comments backing Ellerbe and denying negotiations had ever taken place.

And they would have won this silly game had it ended there and had Greenburg not entered the fray. Arum insisted he was telling the truth, but few seemed to believe him. They didn't, that is, until Greenburg released his brief, simple, but truly remarkable statement.

In it, he said, "Fights like Mayweather vs. Pacquiao are significant because of these fighters' ability to connect with sports fans around the world. It's unfortunate that it won't happen in 2010. I had been negotiating with a representative from each side since May 2nd, carefully trying to put the fight together. Hopefully, someday this fight will happen. Sports fans deserve it."

Here's what sports fans deserve: They deserve better than to waste their hard-earned money on "Money," who acts as if he's invented the sport. Mayweather's a brilliant talent who never seems to let one forget it, who behaves as if he should be able to dictate terms and others should gratefully accept it because he said so.

Let him play in his fantasy world. Boxing doesn't need him. And, truth be told, he's wrong about his value.

Mayweather has sold more pay-per-views against common opponents than Pacquiao and his gates for those fights have been bigger. But Pacquiao's Nov. 14 bout with Cotto at the MGM had a far greater economic impact upon the city of Las Vegas than either of Mayweather's and the Nevada Gaming Control Board attributed casinos' best performance in 22 months in November 2009 to the presence of the Pacquiao-Cotto bout and the high-rolling Asian gamblers who spent loads of money.

Despite apparently being caught red-handed when Greenburg released his statement, Ellerbe's only response on the record was, "I hear his statement and I stand by my statement." But he then attempted to insinuate that comments Mayweather made at a June 2 Make-a-Wish event in Las Vegas should have been taken by the media that he never planned to fight Pacquiao this year.

"At this particular time, Floyd Mayweather is taking probably a year off, a couple of years off from the sport of boxing," Mayweather said at the charity event. "I don't really know what the future holds for Floyd Mayweather at this particular time, but I'll probably take a couple of years off."

Saying one "probably" is going to take a year off is a lot different than releasing a statement or holding a media conference and announcing one's retirement. Yet, Ellerbe attempted to intimate that Mayweather's statement to sports director Chris Maathuis of KLAS-TV in his gym at a charity event was a definitive announcement.

What muddied the waters even more was http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spQdrNMMksA" target="_blank">told Robert Morales of BoxingScene.com, "I think I said it because I get the question so many times that, obviously, I was fed up and tired of it and I just said like, 'Yeah, yeah, it's gonna get made.' "

Essentially, De La Hoya on Monday admitted to lying on June 11, though it's uncertain how his June 11 comments would have helped end the questioning he wanted to avoid. Given that he said a deal was close, that would only seem to make the scrutiny greater, no lesser. Had he said there were no talks, which he's now insisting is the truth, and that the fight was not going to happen, no one would have had reason to keep asking him.

No one is going to ask any more. How can anyone support someone with Mayweather's arrogance, who cares so little about the fans who made him rich beyond his wildest dreams that he won't even consider the fight they want more than any other?

Mayweather has run from his biggest challenge. The fans, even those who have ardently supported him through the years, will surely remember that. And the next time he dares to compare himself to one of boxing's all-time greats, such as Sugar Ray Robinson or Sugar Ray Leonard, they'll scoff.

He can't hold a candle to either.

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People seem to be underestimating how big of a dirt bag bob arum is. He is the jewish version of don king and if you follow his past you see why he is so shady. Mayweather did want to fight him he just wanted paq to take a legit drug test not one of the ones that nfl, mlb, and olympic athletes are able to pass even though they are blatantly taking them. Mayweather is def concerned about fighting paq you cant deny that but I feel he just wanted to fight someone who is not on some sort of juice when he obviously isnt shown by his camp wanting such a strict test in the first place.

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