Debt commission chiefs give gloomy fiscal outlook

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...101956_pf.html

 

The co-chairs of President Obama's debt and deficit commission offered an ominous assessment of the nation's fiscal future here Sunday, calling current budgetary trends a cancer "that will destroy the country from within" unless checked by tough action in Washington.

 

 

The two leaders -- former Republican Senator Alan Simpson of Wyoming and Erskine Bowles, White House chief of staff under former President Bill Clinton -- sought to build support for the work of the commission, whose recommendations due later this year are likely to spark a fierce political debate in Congress.

 

"There are many who hope we fail," Simpson said at the closing session of the National Governors Association meeting. He called the 18-member commission "good people with deep, deep differences" who know the odds of success "are rather harrowing."

 

Bowles said that unlike the current economic crisis, which was largely unforeseen before it hit in the fall of 2008, the coming fiscal calamity is staring the country in the face. "This one is as clear as a bell," he said. "This debt is like a cancer."

 

 

The commission leaders said that, at present, available federal revenues are fully consumed by just three programs: Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. "The rest of the federal government, including fighting two wars, homeland security, education, art, culture, you name it, veterans, the whole rest of the discretionary budget is being financed by China and other countries," Simpson said.

 

We can't grow our way out of this," Bowles said. "We could have decades of double digit growth and not grow our way out of this enormous debt problem. We can't tax our way out . . . The reality is we've got to do exactly what you all do every day as governors. We've got to cut spending or increase revenues or do some combination of that."

 

Bowles pointed to steps taken recently by the new coalition government in Britain, which also faces an acute budgetary problem, as a guide to the formula the commission might use in its recommendations. That would mean about three-quarters of the deficit reduction would be accomplished through spending cuts and the remainder with additional revenues.

 

Most Republicans in Congress are opposed to any tax increases, which has made the work of the commission far more difficult. Bowles and Simpson appealed for support to the governors, who have been forced by their states' constitutions to balance their budgets by deep spending cuts and in many cases tax increases.

 

Bowles and Simpson said the commission would have had a stronger hand politically had it been created by Congress, rather than through an executive order. Simpson was pointed in his criticism of seven Republicans who once had co-sponsored such a measure but who helped block it the Senate.

 

"As far as I can discern it was to stick it to the president," Simpson said. "That's where we are in Washington." He later added that all of seven "have now come to us to say we're ready to help."

 

The presentation by Simpson and Bowles, which included repeated statements of determination to produce a bipartisan set of recommendations, drew praise from the governors.

 

"I don't know that I've every heard a gloomier picture painted that created more hope for me," said Gov. Mike Beebe (D-Ark.).

 

Gov. Chris Gregoire (D-Wash.) said that many governors fear that the commission's recommendations will result in more demands on the states.

 

Bowles, who noted that the 1997 balanced budget agreement between the Clinton White House and the Republican-controlled Congress included many provisions that put more burdens on the states, said that wasn't likely.

 

"I don't think you're going to see a lot of devolution coming from us because the states are all broke," he said.

 

Simpson also warned that the November elections could add another wild card to the work of the commission. "I have no idea what's going to happen on election day but it's going to be disruptive . . . ," he said. "It's going to be a big wake up call around the whole United States. I have no idea where it's going, but thank heaven we have a month then to work through the wreckage."

[Wild Ryan]

Budget cuts and killing programs to those who don't produce as a society is not what this admin is about.

 

Time for tough love to the bum children.

[dena]

Hell, now might as well keep over spending.

 

It don't make much difference hitting the wall at 80mph or 100mph, you are just as dead.

 

The whole government needs to be over hauled, and it is political suicide to do what needs done.

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"The co-chairs of President Obama's debt and deficit commission offered an ominous assessment of the nation's fiscal future here Sunday, calling current budgetary trends a cancer "that will destroy the country from within" unless checked by tough action in Washington.

 

The two leaders -- former Republican Senator Alan Simpson of Wyoming and Erskine Bowles, White House chief of staff under former President Bill Clinton -- sought to build support for the work of the commission, whose recommendations due later this year are likely to spark a fierce political debate in Congress.

 

Bowles said that unlike the current economic crisis, which was largely unforeseen before it hit in the fall of 2008, the coming fiscal calamity is staring the country in the face. "This one is as clear as a bell," he said. "This debt is like a cancer."

 

We can't grow our way out of this," Bowles said. "We could have decades of double digit growth and not grow our way out of this enormous debt problem. We can't tax our way out . . . The reality is we've got to do exactly what you all do every day as governors. We've got to cut spending or increase revenues or do some combination of that."

 

 

SPENDING MUST BE CUT AND TAXES MUST INCREASE.

 

THE BULK OF INCREASED TAX REVENUE MUST BE USED TO REDUCE ANNUAL FEDERAL BUDGET DEFICITS AND THE RATE OF INCREASE IN THE NATIONAL DEBT.

 

OUR VENAL, REPROBATE CONGRESS, HAS KNOWINGLY AND WILFULLY BROUGHT THE COUNTRY TO THE PRECIPICE.

 

CONGRESS' FAILURE TO LEGISLATE SUSTAINABLE FISCAL POLICY IS SO HARMFUL AS TO BE EVIL.

 

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SPENDING MUST BE CUT AND TAXES MUST INCREASE.

 

 

 

Equally important if not more so is for this country to find a means of substantial production in the coming years and replace the consumption economy by 20% or so, without that spending cuts and tax increases will not be enough.

 

 

We had huge debt after WWII, what brought us back was the means of production generated during the war. With that said I hope we don't need another World war to create the means.