ESyakr Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Im tying some rigs, exactly like the one pictured below, and Im not sure what style hook that is, or if its the best to use. What style is it, is it the best for fluke, and if not, what other styles work? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charrua Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 I like to use Gamis,octopus,anywhere from 2/0 to 5/0 depending on the bait that I'm using. If I'm using a "naked" rig for killies or spearing,2/0 or 3/0. For plastics like Gulp,4/0 or 5/0'\\. I hope this helps you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirz Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Pictured looks like a mustad wide gap bait hook, good for using strip baits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jersey 609 Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 gamakatsu shiner(english style) hooks or octopus style If you don't live for something you'll die for nothing(Hatebreed)(*member formerly known as 'NJRockHopper') Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurffishNJ Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 I've been using gami red "in line" circles for all my fluke rigs for a cuple of years now with very very good results...espically with the number of throw backs. "Backlash" Sportfishing / JSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxBeetle Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 By brand name, the hook shown is a Gami Shiner Hook (good stuff!), I'm sure there is another name for the hook style , that may have already been mentioned, but in most big box stores and BT stores they just label them "fluke hooks" IMO, these will hook more fluke than an octopus hook. Classic .........as we continue on....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtieFluke429 Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Kahle hook. most likely a 3/0. They work okay, have been OKAY for years. Ill give you a brief breakdown when assembling fluke rigs. All are important- it would be difficult to put these things in order. A) LEADER CHOICE- Flurocarbon is never a bad choice. It is more stiff then mono, proven to be less visible to the fish, and allows for a more natural presentation in my opinion. Mono has been used for years by many sharpies who havent made the switch, Ande prob. the most popular with 30lb being a good choice for general bay flukin' and 40lb a good choice for larger baits such as snappers or pnutz & ocean Flukin'. One may want to step it up to 50 or 60 when fishing deeper water with a considerable amount of structure. B)- HOOK CHOICE your far better off with something more similar to what SF NJ mentioned above, Gamakatsu. Inline or Octopus are made super choices and are of the utmost quality. Red is an excellent choice to. It hasnt technically been scientifically proven that the fluke see the red and are drawn to it, but it may be one of those things that physcologically help the fisherman, and thats good enough for me. If i feel like something is working, and it gives me confidence, its worth my time and money- and red hooks for fluke have been one of those things over the past 5 years. Ive seen many spend 100's$ on top-of-the-line rod and reels but cheap out on the hooks- Fluke demand the right hook- and that "right" hook may vary depending on the bait, depth, and YOUR style of fishing. There's no right or wrong answer when it comes to this. I go to a circle hook if im deadsticking or fishing larger bait when i do not tend to "bounce" as much, the circle hook seems to take the responsibility of the hookset for you. When im fishing my bullet and teaser rigs i like the octopus hook because I BOUNCE BOUNCE BOUNCE and do 100% of the actual hookset on my own. That's just what i like. 3) If using a fish finder rig, use a high quaility slide that is braid friendly if you are fishing a superline of any type. The colored slides are usually the ones to go for. 4) High quaility swivel. I like Spro. Size will vary depending on the rig. Do some research on Flukle Rigs. Theres endless information on this site on this topic. Theres different Fluke rigs for Early and Late season and for Bay and Ocean. Different Rigs for Bait and different For Bullets or Bucktails. First Find the style of Fluke fishing you enjoy the most and then tie the rigs accordingly. Do a seperate search on teasers as well. But in my opinion, you may want to begin with something more similar to a bullet rig than the plastic squid b2 you are using. The rig i use for fluke 80% of the time is a swivel connected to my main line, a 16'' piece of flurocarbon attached to a 2 or 3 oz bullet. Dropper loop above it for teaser with fresh bait and a Trailer hook with 6-8 inches of fluro attached to a gamakatsu octopus hook with a big piece of bait, strip usually. Good Luck, 6 or 7 weeks and theyll be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sefmonster Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Do yourself a favor and pick up a box of Mustad #C70SD Big Game-light 2X size 4/0 and use them with your gulp alive and other baits and see how great they work! Started using these and never went back to any other hook! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfishdelmarva Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Spot on K hooks of Kahle hooks Kahle hook. most likely a 3/0. They work okay, have been OKAY for years. Ill give you a brief breakdown when assembling fluke rigs. All are important- it would be difficult to put these things in order. A) LEADER CHOICE- Flurocarbon is never a bad choice. It is more stiff then mono, proven to be less visible to the fish, and allows for a more natural presentation in my opinion. Mono has been used for years by many sharpies who havent made the switch, Ande prob. the most popular with 30lb being a good choice for general bay flukin' and 40lb a good choice for larger baits such as snappers or pnutz & ocean Flukin'. One may want to step it up to 50 or 60 when fishing deeper water with a considerable amount of structure. B)- HOOK CHOICE your far better off with something more similar to what SF NJ mentioned above, Gamakatsu. Inline or Octopus are made super choices and are of the utmost quality. Red is an excellent choice to. It hasnt technically been scientifically proven that the fluke see the red and are drawn to it, but it may be one of those things that physcologically help the fisherman, and thats good enough for me. If i feel like something is working, and it gives me confidence, its worth my time and money- and red hooks for fluke have been one of those things over the past 5 years. Ive seen many spend 100's$ on top-of-the-line rod and reels but cheap out on the hooks- Fluke demand the right hook- and that "right" hook may vary depending on the bait, depth, and YOUR style of fishing. There's no right or wrong answer when it comes to this. I go to a circle hook if im deadsticking or fishing larger bait when i do not tend to "bounce" as much, the circle hook seems to take the responsibility of the hookset for you. When im fishing my bullet and teaser rigs i like the octopus hook because I BOUNCE BOUNCE BOUNCE and do 100% of the actual hookset on my own. That's just what i like. 3) If using a fish finder rig, use a high quaility slide that is braid friendly if you are fishing a superline of any type. The colored slides are usually the ones to go for. 4) High quaility swivel. I like Spro. Size will vary depending on the rig. Do some research on Flukle Rigs. Theres endless information on this site on this topic. Theres different Fluke rigs for Early and Late season and for Bay and Ocean. Different Rigs for Bait and different For Bullets or Bucktails. First Find the style of Fluke fishing you enjoy the most and then tie the rigs accordingly. Do a seperate search on teasers as well. But in my opinion, you may want to begin with something more similar to a bullet rig than the plastic squid b2 you are using. The rig i use for fluke 80% of the time is a swivel connected to my main line, a 16'' piece of flurocarbon attached to a 2 or 3 oz bullet. Dropper loop above it for teaser with fresh bait and a Trailer hook with 6-8 inches of fluro attached to a gamakatsu octopus hook with a big piece of bait, strip usually. Good Luck, 6 or 7 weeks and theyll be here. Alan J . R ADIDAS= All Day I Dream About Stripers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldgoat Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 I still use wide gap hooks for fluke,bass, blues with bait. With eels i use eagle claw 5/0 beak hooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Captain of the BMH said that Kahle hooks kill more fish than anything else. I use Gami Octopus. But I suck. Banned in Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly By Nite Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Do yourself a favor and pick up a box of Mustad #C70SD Big Game-light 2X size 4/0 and use them with your gulp alive and other baits and see how great they work! Started using these and never went back to any other hook! My problem with those baits is the rubber slides off too easily...do they have barbs near the eyelet to keep your rubber in place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sefmonster Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 I never had a problem with them sliding off but if you want you can use a little Zap-a-gap to secure to the hook! But those hooks rock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finchaser Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 If I am forced to fish bait I use a 4 or 5/0 Gami Octopus When I bucktail which I usually do I use a 4/0 octopus as the teaser hook 18 inches above the bucktail Pay attention to what history has taught us or be prepared to relive it again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albacized Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 By brand name, the hook shown is a Gami Shiner Hook (good stuff!), I'm sure there is another name for the hook style , that may have already been mentioned, but in most big box stores and BT stores they just label them "fluke hooks" IMO, these will hook more fluke than an octopus hook. I second that - but it may because I'm old school and that was the hook I used in the 80's/90's. I've kinda turned the corner to mostly all artificials and given that, I'd say that bucktails on spinning/casting gear as well as clouser minnows on the fly rod are my two most best fluke producers. ***Edit - actually the hooks I used weren't gamis...I'm more so referring to the style of the hook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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