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This just in from the Democratic party. cwm13.gif

 

 

Scott Brown swearing-in would be stalled to pass health-care reform

By Frank Quaratiello Saturday, January 9, 2010 | http://www.bostonherald.com | Healthcare

 

It looks like the fix is in on national health-care reform - and it all may unfold on Beacon Hill.

At a business forum in Boston today, interim Sen. Paul Kirk predicted that Congress would pass a health-care reform bill this month.

"We want to get this resolved before President Obama's State of the Union address in early to mid-February," Kirk told reporters at a Greater Boston Chamber of Commerce breakfast.

The longtime aide and confidant of the late Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, who was handpicked by Gov. Deval Patrick after a controversial legal change to hold Kennedy's seat, vowed to vote for the bill even if Republican state Sen. Scott Brown, who opposes the health-care reform legislation, prevails in a Jan. 19 special election.

"Absolutely," Kirk said, when asked if he'd vote for the bill, even if Brown captures the seat. "It would be my responsibility as United States senator, representing the people and understanding Senator Kennedy's agenda. . . . I think you're asking me a hypothetical question but I'd be pleased to vote for the bill."

Few have considered the Jan. 19 election as key to the fate of national health-care reform because both Kirk and front-runner state Attorney General Martha Coakley, the Democratic nominee, have vowed to uphold Kennedy's legacy and support health-care reform.

But if Brown wins, the entire national health-care reform debate may hinge on when he takes over as senator. Brown has vowed to be the crucial 41st vote in the Senate that would block the bill.

The U.S. Senate ultimately will schedule the swearing-in of Kirk's successor, but not until the state certifies the election.

Today, a spokesman for Secretary of the Commonwealth William Galvin, who is overseeing the election but did not respond to a call seeking comment, said certification of the Jan. 19 election by the Governor's Council would take a while.

"Because it's a federal election," spokesman Brian McNiff said. "We'd have to wait 10 days for absentee and military ballots to come in."

Another source told the Herald that Galvin's office has said the election won't be certified until Feb. 20 - well after the president's address.

Since the U.S. Senate doesn't meet again in formal session until Jan. 20, Bay State voters will have made their decision before a vote on health-care reform could be held. But Kirk and Galvin's office said today a victorious Brown would be left in limbo.

In contrast, Rep. Niki Tsongas (D-Lowell) was sworn in at the U.S. House of Representatives on Oct. 18, 2007, just two days after winning a special election to replace Martin Meehan. In that case, Tsongas made it to Capitol Hill in time to override a presidential veto of the expansion of the State Children's Health Insurance Program.

Yesterday, Brown, who has been closing the gap with Coakley in polls and fund raising, blasted the political double standard.

"This is a stunning admission by Paul Kirk and the Beacon Hill political machine," said Brown in a statement. "Paul Kirk appears to be suggesting that he, Deval Patrick, and (Senate Majority Leader) Harry Reid intend to stall the election certification until the health care bill is rammed through Congress, even if that means defying the will of the people of Massachusetts. As we've already seen from the backroom deals and kickbacks cut by the Democrats in Washington, they intend to do anything and everything to pass their controversial health care plan. But threatening to ignore the results of a free election and steal this Senate vote from the people of Massachusetts takes their schemes to a whole new level. Martha Coakley should immediately disavow this threat from one of her campaign's leading supporters."

A spokeswoman for Coakley's campaign declined to comment today.

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Yet one more evidentiary straw for the came's back, that there is no lower limit to 'progressive' hubris and Machiavellianism, regarding passage of legislation to forward their Communist, err...Socialist, err....Green agendas. The end justifies the means, no matter how reprehensible. Giuseppe Stalin must be so proud. shakehead.gif

 

Way to go to negate the will of the people! clapping.gif..cwm13.gif

 

'progressives' are God's living proof that there are more slime bags than there is slime. cwm13.gif...mad.gif

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High stakes political poker. Rush an unpopular and unknown piece of legislation through and leak that if the wrong candidate wins, he will not be seated in time....somewhere Machiavelli is smiling. biggrin.gif

 

If the Dem's are so sure that this is a solid piece of legislation, why the secrecy (I didn't see the hearings on C-Span)? Why the rush to pass this bill?

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View PostHigh stakes political poker. Rush an unpopular and unknown piece of legislation through and leak that if the wrong candidate wins, he will not be seated in time....somewhere Machiavelli is smiling. biggrin.gif

 

If the Dem's are so sure that this is a solid piece of legislation, why the secrecy (I didn't see the hearings on C-Span)? Why the rush to pass this bill?

 

I would think it because once the camel's nose is under the tent, he, (re; it), will never be pushed out. The votes will never be there to repeal this Frankenstein 'entitlement' monster. It stinks to low Hell of 'progressive' desperation, but it is what it is. cwm13.gif

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Given how Obama and the democrats have been doing things, this is no surprise. Why not ignore the will of the people? Why not bribe senators? Why not manipulate things for your own agenda? Why do things out in the open?

 

This is libs doing what they do best....ignore the will of the people for their own agenda....to hell with the taxpayers....who are they to ask us to do what is right?

 

The backlash is going to be brilliant cwm15.gif

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Typical Massachusetts politics!

 

Voters pass referendum, Legislature says NO! NO! NO! We not let you do that. (Google: Temporary Income Tax)

 

It looks like Kerry might win and the Governor is a Repuiblican! OOPS, the Legislature decides that the Governor (Republican) should not be allowed to select the person to replace Kerry. Change the law - argue that the choice should belong to the people. (Chuckle)

 

 

Fast forward: Kennedy is about to buy the dirt farm and the Legislature decides that screw the people IT REALLY should be the Governor (Democrat) selects the replacement. Changes the law to allow the Governor to selct the replacement. Even the Politicians were not happy so the replacement is only temporary and we will are having the election, funny but the Democrats never imagined that a politician could win who was not a Demcorat.

 

Just watch, if Brown does win, don't be surprised if there is not some extremely fine print in the last bill that allows the selected Demcorat to finish out his term. wink.gif

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oh stop the phony outrage. where was all the whining about the will of the voters when the GOP spent a few million delaying Sen, Al Franken from being seated for months? cwm27.gif

 

I'd expect the Repubs to do the same thing if the rolls were reversed.

 

Unfortunately Brown is a long shot and this situation isn't going to happen anyway. Used to be only the lefties got all emotional about hypothetical situatutions. cwm27.gif

 

I'd like to see the Dems redistrict Congress and gerrymander the whole country like the GOP did a few years ago under Tom Delay just to watch the kivking and screaming and hypocritical emotional breakdowns that would ensue from Team Widestance smile.gif that would be priceless, as good as watching Repubs complaining about gov spending nowadays. tongue.gif

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View Postoh stop the phony outrage. where was all the whining about the will of the voters when the GOP spent a few million delaying Sen, Al Franken from being seated for months? cwm27.gif

 

I'd expect the Repubs to do the same thing if the rolls were reversed.

 

Unfortunately Brown is a long shot and this situation isn't going to happen anyway. Used to be only the lefties got all emotional about hypothetical situatutions. cwm27.gif

 

I'd like to see the Dems redistrict Congress and gerrymander the whole country like the GOP did a few years ago under Tom Delay just to watch the kivking and screaming and hypocritical emotional breakdowns that would ensue from Team Widestance smile.gif that would be priceless, as good as watching Repubs complaining about gov spending nowadays. tongue.gif

 

Jonesy, that was a contested election that Franken lost, challenged and eventually came to win through recounts. What we're talking about here is - even if Brown is the clear winner the Dems plan to stall certification to keep him out long enough to pass their corrupt bill.

 

If you can't see the difference you got problems, man.

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View PostJonesy, that was a contested election that Franken lost, challenged and eventually came to win through recounts. What we're talking about here is - even if Brown is the clear winner the Dems plan to stall certification to keep him out long enough to pass their corrupt bill.

 

If you can't see the difference you got problems, man.

 

 

 

that's not true. even aftyr it was apparent Franklen had won they stalled certification and filed dubious appeals. Key Repubs admitted they would keep appealing to stall his appointmanet as long as possible even while acknowledging he had won. there's no difference besides the shoe being on the other foot and the Repubs might have something to whine about.

 

 

If you can't see that you got problems man.

 

but like I said unfortuantely Brown's a huge long shot so i don't see this coming pass anyway. But if you were vocal about the thwarting of the will of voters in the Frsnken mess then you can credibly complain about it now...

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View Postthat's not true. even aftyr it was apparent Franklen had won they stalled certification and filed dubious appeals. Key Repubs admitted they would keep appealing to stall his appointmanet as long as possible even while acknowledging he had won. there's no difference besides the shoe being on the other foot and the Repubs might have something to whine about.

 

 

If you can't see that you got problems man.

 

but like I said unfortuantely Brown's a huge long shot so i don't see this coming pass anyway. But if you were vocal about the thwarting of the will of voters in the Frsnken mess then you can credibly complain about it now...

 

The will of the recounters in a Dem controlled state where they keep counting until the initial loser Franken eventually becomes the winner? That's hardly the will of anybody except the party. I'm not trying to compare a recount of a close election to cynically refusing to seat a fairly elected man. If Brown does win (doubtful) and if the election is as close as it was in Minnesota and the Dems want a recount, that's okay with me. But if Brown wins clearly and the Dems refuse to seat him, that's wrong. And it's certainly not the brand of "new" politics Obama and the Dems promised. But we all know what a pack of lies that was, don't we?

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View PostThe will of the recounters in a Dem controlled state where they keep counting until the initial loser Franken eventually becomes the winner?

 

 

Republican Governor Tim Palenty and his appointees who run the state are controlled by Dems? wow, that's quite the conspiracy as is the insinuation of some kind of voter fraud. Getting deep into tin foil hat stuff cwm31.gif

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