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surecatch cmd300 pro anti reverse problem?

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Hi everyone,

I have a nice little surecatch cmd300 pro. The design seems to be based on an abu 6000 classic.

 

The reel has served me well so far until today. I was trying for a big big cast and the free spool button clicked off mid cast. This meant the full force of my cast was put on the drag. It caused the handle to spin backwards a bit in a jerky fashion.

Now I've lost the antireverse due to some kind of damage. The antireverse pawl (number 14 on the diagram) is fine and still working. It is also engaging. I have checked inside and there is no damage. Now when any drag is applied to the reel the handle is trying to spin backwards. I have to hold it myself when a fish pulls back. I can feel the antireverse pawl engage but the handle even allows me to wind backwards with little resistance.

 

Does anyone know why this might be. I dont understand what is broken? I have heard about some reels using 1 way clutch bearings but the cmd300 doesnt seem to have this? Any ideas?

 

I realise this is a cheap reel but i'd like to fix it if I could. frown.gif

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Hi...if the contact point of the A/R dog is still good, with no little notch in it, then the cluster of parts on your schematic numbered 25 through 32 may be in 'the culprit zone'. These parts fit the post on the brake plate.

 

Check to see if the post is still firmly affixed to the brake plate, by removing the driveshaft, and 'twirling' the post with your thumb and forefinger.

If it's loose, then the entire drive train can spin about, on the loose post, causing your symptom.

 

Should this be it, then the only fix I am familiar with is mechanical. Bore a hole exactly the diameter of the driveshaft in a piece of thick plate, insert the brake plate driveshaft in the hole, and using a drift/dull centerpunch/pin,

ball pein hammer, whichever tool will fit the way they fastened, smack the living crap out of the loose fixture on the bottom of the brake plate.

 

Penn 310/320/330's are prone to this occurance, and respond favourably to the whap the crap fix.

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I think I may have figured what's going on. Should parts 25 and 26 be able to move independantly. I'm guessing the answer is NO as the anti reverse pawl locks part 26 from moving backwards. I think 25 is just continuing to move all be it with some resistance.

Might a weld be a quick and dirty fix frown.gif

 

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Hi, Jack, that makes sense, if the squared hole in 25 is now a round hole, or the soft brass on the driveshaft went round, where 25 mates up.

Either scenario should be easy to verify, by activating your reel with the side plate off, to see what's going on.

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hi Ken,

 

thanks for your help. This looks like a round hole in the anti reverse ratchet to me. It was slipping on the drive shaft.

 

I'm not sure I can find a number to contact surecatch here in Thailand. There is probably no one in Phuket anyway. I'll see if I can find a replacement ratchet or see if someone can weld it permanantly for me. confused.gif

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Acknowledged, Jack..... Try a jewellery shop where they fix stuff, and get your parts silver soldered. They will be experianced in the small repair universe.

 

(A repair such as this, at Carter's Jewellers, in my home town is 20.00 Canadian. That's reasonable, given the cost of commerce overall. Taxes, wages, utilities, etc.)

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The tolerances in that area may be tight and hard for any repair to made on that gear unless can you dremel away the inner circle of the gear and find a washer close in thickness to solder in its place or braze it.I'd try and call them or email for the 3 dollar part it may be worth getting a couple and figure out why your reel engaged during the cast.Try and prevent this from happening again on the first cast right after you go through all of this to repair it.Somewhere on these forums JimmyZ has posted how to put a notch in the reel to hold release button in place.May be a fix for the popping in gear problem.

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I think he'll be OK.... note the last photo in the series just before my post, where he's redlined #'s 25/26. *That's* the gap where it's important, for the leaves of the A/R dog to clear. All he's going to do is solder the toothed gear to the driveshaft without disturbing the clearances above. The clearances below are not going to change. They are just going ot become one piece.

 

(Jack stated he's in Thailand, where this reel is not sold.)

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Hi chaps,

I couldnt find a jeweller or mechanic willing to touch it. In the end I visited an exhausts specialist who welds exhaust systems to cars.

He did a great job. It looks messy in the picture but its actually very flush and strong.

I have since caught a 30kg+ mekong catfish in hat yai on this reel so it's very strong. The cost was 50 baht, $1.47.

 

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