Hairyjig Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 if I build a heavy weighted plug so that it sinks, will it swim upward on the retrieve if I put a lip on top of the head of the plug? Fish Hard or GO HOME... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jameso Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 It's all about testing. gl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairyjig Posted December 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 I guess that means its possible Fish Hard or GO HOME... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shady grady Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 Sure it's possible. The amount of lead you will need to sink the plug may kill the swimming action. Cool idea though, go for it and let us know how you do. The best part of trashing plugs is making more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockhoppingmike Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 don't you want it to swim down around the bottom and float up slowly? too much weight and you'll have junk.... pike 3 lip attached to your cedar plug.... little weight in the belly. post pics when your done. tight lines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-KissMyBass- Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 Quote:Originally Posted by Hairyjig if I build a heavy weighted plug so that it sinks, will it swim upward on the retrieve if I put a lip on top of the head of the plug? So did you get it work? )) I've had this idea with heavy eel jigs. Thought it might be cool to make a fast sinking eel jig not only go up (not sink) but also get a real eel/snaking action... A bad day of fishing is still better than a good day at the office! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winch Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 So did you get it work? )) I've had this idea with heavy eel jigs. Thought it might be cool to make a fast sinking eel jig not only go up (not sink) but also get a real eel/snaking action... No he failed horribly and soon left the site for happier lands. It happens to a lot of guys. some brain fart sticks in their head and spins an impossible design and soon the guys in white coats appear. It's why I wear a tin hat. Don't want crazy thoughts in my head. Pssst here is a hint when you want to ask someone if they succeeded, look to see when the first post in the thread was and if the guy has ever reposted in the forum. His post was in 2008 five years ago. Most guys disappear after a few months of getting involved and will not be there to answer your questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr pete Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 what he said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meinekebob Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Guess I should have worn a tin hat, also. One of those "crazy" ideas popped into my head because I always thought that a lure that slowly sank like baitfish after feeding on the surface would be attractive to fish. Then, if the lure swam back to the surface and broke the surface (again, like baitfish feeding), it would cause ripples that would attract predator fish. I can't recall all the times I have had strikes just as I was about to lift the lure out of the water. A few years ago in Louisiana, I fished a shallow, clear water lake that was only about 4 feet deep and about 25 acres in size. It had more bass than any body of water I had ever fished. Due to the clarity and shallow depth, I was able to observe bass in their natural habitat. I noticed that when I cast and the lure landed on the surface of the water and ripples started going out, bass would turn towards the epicenter of the ripples and started swimming in that direction and towards the surface. They were looking for whatever made those ripples. That's when I started looking for a lure that would swim up, rather than down. There isn't one. So, I took a crankbait, moved the bill to the top of the lure and added a small lead weight in the belly of the lure. It worked. It had the same "wobble" as a normal crankbait. It sank at a rate of about a foot every 4 seconds. And during the retrieve, it broke the surface numerous times. I knew I had something other fishermen would like. The trademarked name is "SWIM-UP LURE" and the patent process is slowly making it's way through the USPTO. I may be crazy, but I am prepared to start manufacturing as soon as I have pending status. Being retired has given me the opportunity to refine the lure much more than what you see in this photo. This lure was the first one I made that worked. It took a lot of trial and error to get the weight in exactly the right place so wobble would not be affected. It took more trial and error to install the right weight, but it is done and has been tested with positive results. The patent and trademark are under the corporate name of Das Boot, Inc., a corporation I own that is primarily in the commercial real estate business. Wish me luck, as I am going to need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefreeordie Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Intriguing! Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meinekebob Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Thank you, Livefreeordie. Now, I'd like to ask you a question if you don't mind answering. I live in Texas and have fished primarily Southern waters, except for salmon fishing in Alaska and waters out of the U.S. I know this lure will attract small mouth bass, but I don't know how successful it will be with other fish from Northern waters. In other words, I don't know their feeding patterns nor their forage. I have already been successful with this design on bass and crappie (I think you call them "perch"). I have also used it with success in saltwater (the Gulf of Mexico) on speckled trout and redfish. I really value your opinion and that of other fishermen/fisherwomen. Hopefully, some will give me feedback on their thoughts and gut instincts. Any comments you or others make, both good and bad, are helpful to me and most appreciated. Someone posted on this site their desire to find a lure that swims up, rather than down. Someone else answered that it was impossible because the weight would kill the wobble. Now that that theory has been dispelled, I am looking for any other thoughts that might improve my design. Somehow, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service found out about this design before I applied for a patent. They flew a representative from Washington to Texas to pay me a visit. He was accompanied by an FBI agent. The Wildlife guy asked me what it would take to keep me from moving forward with this project. He said they were worried about "depletion of species", whatever that means. I am a little bit worried that they might try to stop my efforts by whatever means possible. Their interest indicates to me that they have faced a similar lure and somehow stopped it from being produced. Hopefully, they don't attempt to stop the patent process. The USPTO did try to decline my trademark, but I managed to get it approved by a little known process that was used by the attorneys I am using in Washington. Any thoughts on this would also be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollincoal Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Did the "representative" look like this? "If you know that and you don't know anything else you know more than if you know everything else and you don't know that." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meinekebob Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Hahaha...no, he didn't. You would not have thrown him a second glance if you saw him on the street. Just an average guy on a mission...and very polite. He wasn't even wearing a tie or suit, just slacks and a golf shirt. I don't even think he was armed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefreeordie Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 I think a lure that sinks low, and rises with a wobble on retrieve, will catch many species. I (respectfully) doubt that F & WL flew out to investigate, but tell me more, this is interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meinekebob Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Oh, they did alright. My wife was highly alarmed by their visit and to this day I still don't know how they found out about my project or why they thought it would "deplete" species. But then again, government people have a reputation for overreacting. I also don't know why they drug along someone from the local FBI office. An FBI agent has a boat at the marina where I park our houseboat. I asked him why I was visited and he didn't know anything about it. No clue how many agents they have in Houston, so that is possible. I also can't figure why anyone would make up a story like that if it didn't happen. Can you explain why you thought it didn't happen and what you thought I could gain by it? Maybe my mind does not work that way. But then again, what difference does it make one way or the other? I was just giving the facts of what has transpired concerning my lure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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