Hawker Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 Obviously, the Supreme Court wants to see Obama's birth certificate (Docket 08-570). So now what happens... do we have a constitutional crisis or will Obama produce a valid birth certificate to satisfy the court? This is getting to be much more than your usual throw it against the wall and let's see what sticks scenario by the Obama's opposition. What do you think? Judge Souter threw out Berg's request to hold off the election, but did request this information. Obama and the lower court must produce this information by Dec. 1. The Electoral College convenes to vote somewhere about or on Dec. 15th. As of now... he isn't the president elect until the electoral college votes. Should be interesting to see how the court handles this. Certainly the MSM is keeping a low profile on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 While I recognize the facts look bad for BHO, I do not anticipate that the Court will disqualify him. I think they will overlook a technicality because they understand the riots that would ensue if they didn't. They will be practical. A lady I worked with didn't understand how a president could win the popular vote and lose the electoral vote. Can you imagine how the same population would react to BHO not being installed because Hawaii wasn't a state when BHO was born? Pandemonium. The Court won't let that happen. How we wish to catch a fish so juicy sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckles Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 What the hell are you people babbling about now? What utter nonsense; there's no such court order. Berg's rediculous souit was thrown out of court. I'm hoping this is a stupid troll rather than a revelation of just how gullible people can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegDunlop Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 what are you reffering to? is this a true story? holy ****!!! why would there be riots? if we're looking for a shark we're not gonna find him on the land Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawker Posted November 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 What the hell are you people babbling about now? What utter nonsense; there's no such court order. Berg's rediculous souit was thrown out of court. I'm hoping this is a stupid troll rather than a revelation of just how gullible people can be. That's were you are wrong Chuckie. Go here: http://origin.www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08-570.htm The lower court dismissed it, it was appealed to the SCOTUS and the SCOTUS denied Berg an injunction to hold off the election, but the SCOTUS wants the writ of certiorari complied with by the lower court and Obama by 12/01. The SCOTUS does not issue these rulings often. Obviously they would like to know about this as well. Do your homework before you go wetting your panties, will ya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Flat Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 HELLO!!!!! You are not even allowed to run if you are not valid. Obviously if he was fine to run then he is fine to be elected!!! "I would rather be on the water and catching nothing than at home and catching nothing" - ME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegDunlop Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 okay i am not happy BHO beat a war hero like McCain, but this is NOT good for the country if there is any truth to this... I hope this is wrong if we're looking for a shark we're not gonna find him on the land Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawker Posted November 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 HELLO!!!!! You are not even allowed to run if you are not valid. Obviously if he was fine to run then he is fine to be elected!!! That's what the Supreme Court would like to know. Obviously he might have not been "fine to run". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 what are you reffering to? is this a true story? holy ****!!! why would there be riots? Can you imagine how the black community would see SCOTUS disqualifying him? They would be incensed! They would see it as "the man" taking away what is "theirs" yet again. There will be riots if it happens. On a positive note, however, I don't think SCOTUS won't do it. HELLO!!!!! You are not even allowed to run if you are not valid. Obviously if he was fine to run then he is fine to be elected!!! How exactly does that work? Do you think each state asks for your birth certificate before they put you on the ballot? Maybe it was just assumed. But, it isn't the State's job to determine whether or not the candidate meets the Federal requirements set forth in the Constitution. So it is not obvious that if he was fine to run that he is fine to be elected. There are 2 different governments at work here. How we wish to catch a fish so juicy sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckles Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 That's were you are wrong Chuckie. Go here: http://origin.www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08-570.htm The lower court dismissed it, it was appealed to the SCOTUS and the SCOTUS denied Berg an injunction to hold off the election, but the SCOTUS wants the writ of certiorari complied with by the lower court and Obama by 12/01. The SCOTUS does not issue these rulings often. Obviously they would like to know about this as well. Do your homework before you go wetting your panties, will ya? No. 08-570Title:Philip J. Berg, Petitioner v. Barack Obama, et al. Docketed:October 31, 2008 Lower Ct:United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit Case Nos. (08-4340) Rule 11 ~~~Date~~~ ~Proceedings and Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Oct 30 2008 Petition for a writ of certiorari before judgment filed. (Response due December 1, 2008) Oct 31 2008 Application (08A391) for an injunction pending disposition of the petition for a writ of certiorari, submitted to Justice Souter. Nov 3 2008Supplemental brief of applicant Philip J. Berg filed. Nov 3 2008Application (08A391) denied by Justice Souter. Is this what you are referring to - the part in bold? If it is... OMG, so you look like a bigger fool than I ever imagined, lecturing about "doing your homework" and such. Do you even know what certiorari is? Why is this board full of the most ill-informed, gullible folks tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Williams Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 Fellas, here's my take on it, for what it's worth. If there was a coon up that tree, Hillary would have been baying her fool head off. The fact that Hillary never once took that up should be, in my opinion, considered proof positive that there's nothing up that tree worth barking at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckles Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 Fellas, here's my take on it, for what it's worth. If there was a coon up that tree, Hillary would have been baying her fool head off. The fact that Hillary never once took that up should be, in my opinion, considered proof positive that there's nothing up that tree worth barking at. No, no... let's hear Hawker's considered legal opinion on this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffT Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 okay i am not happy BHO beat a war hero like McCain What does being a war hero have to do with being a good POTUS? Clearly, he lost to someone better suited to be POTUS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 Fellas, here's my take on it, for what it's worth. If there was a coon up that tree, Hillary would have been baying her fool head off. The fact that Hillary never once took that up should be, in my opinion, considered proof positive that there's nothing up that tree worth barking at. That's a good thought. But, maybe Hillary thought it wasn't a battle worth fighting, i.e., it would have cost her votes in either the primaries or the general election. I think SCOTUS wants to see a reply brief before they decide whether to grant the petition for Cert. While it is unlikely that cert will be granted, they could take it up. Maybe they will, maybe they won't, but isn't that the subject of the thread? That's what we are supposed to be talking about? Good zinger though Chuckles. You really got him with that "gullible" and "ill-informed" comment. How we wish to catch a fish so juicy sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawker Posted November 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 No, no... let's hear Hawker's considered legal opinion on this... Chuckie - I know exactly what I'm talking about. It seems you provide nothing except lame criticisms. I believe you don't understand the legal terms, the lower court history, and the SCOTUS docket we are talking about. First you say it's a troll by the gullible, and now that the docket is presented, you are beside yourself. You have offered nothing. If you want a fight, talk to yourself. I'm not going to have a rational argument with someone who just doesn't get it because of prejudices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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