Corporatism vs Liberalism

[Punk Freud]

Are Corporatism & Liberalism mutually exclusive?

Does anyone argue that Conservatism & Corporatism are inclusive?

Does anyone dispute the the US government favors corporatism?

 

Just trying to flesh out who and what is Liberalism.

[Robert Williams]

What is corporatism, how does the government favor it and over whom does the government favor it? Probably should establish the validity of these points before wandering willy-nilly down the path of uh-huh, nuh-uh bickering over points that aren't even mutually understood or agreed upon.

[Little]

Thats Ariannna Hufington yapyapap.

[Punk Freud]

What is corporatism, how does the government favor it and over whom does the government favor it?

 

The multi TRILLION dollar public bailout of private corporations is corporatism.

Bush's "ownership society" is corporatism, the privatization of public interests.

It's corporate bodies (lobbyists) influencing government decision-making,

at the expense of public interests, ie. pollution regulation, natural resource

allocation, privatizing infrastructure like highways, water supplies & the military.

It's the merging of corporate interests with our government like the Federal Reserve & the Treasury.

Currently the Federal Reserve is acting solely in the interest of corporations.

[Robert Williams]

I'm sorry, Punk. I think you misunderstood.. I wasn't asking you to provide us with hyperbole and rhetoric, but rather a simple and rationale baseline for your post, i.e. what is corporatism (definition, not what you presume to be examples), and a simple explanation of the statement that the government favors corporatism since "favor" was used in a comparative context.

[Robert Williams]

Currently the Federal Reserve is acting solely in the interest of corporations.

 

I should also mention that you will have one whopper of a good time trying to provide a factual and honest basis for this assertion since it can readily be argued that a strong (or at least functioning) economy is in the best interests of everyone and not just corporations.

 

It's not possible to separate "corporations" from "our economy" any more easily than it is to separate the trees from the forest. No trees; no forest. No forest; no trees.

 

And if you think you can argue that individual welfare is completely independent of our national economy and economic system, then I'd certainly enjoy hearing you try.

[Little]

Whats the opposite of a corporatist?

Small businessist?

Can't hold down a jobist?

[Punk Freud]

Corporatism is; corporate bodies (lobbyists) influencing government

decision-making, at the expense of the public wellbeing.

 

It's not possible to separate "corporations" from "our economy" any more easily than it is to separate the trees from the forest. No trees; no forest. No forest; no trees.

 

And if you think you can argue that individual welfare is completely independent of our national economy and economic system, then I'd certainly enjoy hearing you try.

 

Splain to me what the Whiskey Rebellion was all about.

 

Corporate entities ARE NOT indispensible elements of the "economy".

Unlike "forests & trees", "economy & corporations" are not analogous

It's a fictional entity created to secure benefits not otherwise available.

Do you really NOT understand the nature of a corporation?

 

Nice try conflating corporate interests with the economy.

But the economy would be MUCH better off if not for the meddling

of corporate lobbyists do in the halls of Congress and Wall Street.

[Little]

Its not about the economy.

Its about the First Amendment.

[Robert Williams]

Corporatism is; corporate bodies (lobbyists) influencing government

decision-making, at the expense of the public wellbeing.

 

Splain to me what the Whiskey Rebellion was all about.

 

Corporate entities ARE NOT indispensible elements of the "economy".

Unlike "forests & trees", "economy & corporations" are not analogous

It's a fictional entity created to secure benefits not otherwise available.

Do you really NOT understand the nature of a corporation?

 

Nice try conflating corporate interests with the economy.

But the economy would be MUCH better off if not for the meddling

of corporate lobbyists do in the halls of Congress and Wall Street.

 

Since you don't care how government treats corporations, I have to assume you must not work for a corporation. Most people DO work for corporations and anyone who does work for a corporation and feels that what's in the best interest for that corporation is in the worst interest for them has a rather peculiar perspective that I would like to hear explained.

 

Do people think they will still have their jobs if the corporation they work for fails? And yes, Virginia, the government can put such restrictions on trade and business and such onerous requirements that a corporation can fail from them. Is this good or bad for it's employees?

 

The only way we could discuss corporate welfare independent of our own would be if none of us had any business dealings (i.e. selling to, buying from, employed by) corporations.

[Punk Freud]

Since you don't care how government treats corporations I have to assume you must not work for a corporation.

 

My business is a Schedule C.

[Robert Williams]

My business is a schedule C business, too. back at you.