Robert Williams Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 By BEN EVANS, 2 hours ago WASHINGTON (AP) - A Republican congressman from Georgia said Monday he fears that President-elect Obama will establish a Gestapo-like security force to impose a Marxist or fascist dictatorship. "It may sound a bit crazy and off base, but the thing is, he's the one who proposed this national security force," Rep. Paul Broun said of Obama in an interview Monday with The Associated Press. "I'm just trying to bring attention to the fact that we may - may not, I hope not - but we may have a problem with that type of philosophy of radical socialism or Marxism." Broun cited a July speech by Obama that has circulated on the Internet in which the then-Democratic presidential candidate called for a civilian force to take some of the national security burden off the military. "That's exactly what Hitler did in Nazi Germany and it's exactly what the Soviet Union did," Broun said. "When he's proposing to have a national security force that's answering to him, that is as strong as the U.S. military, he's showing me signs of being Marxist." Obama's comments about a national security force came during a speech in Colorado about building a new civil service corps. Among other things, he called for expanding the nation's foreign service and doubling the size of the Peace Corps "to renew our diplomacy." "We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set," Obama said in July. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded." Broun said he also believes Obama likely will move to ban gun ownership if he does build a national police force. Obama has said he respects the Second Amendment right to bear arms and favors "common sense" gun laws. Gun rights advocates interpret that as meaning he'll at least enact curbs on ownership of assault weapons and concealed weapons. As an Illinois state lawmaker, Obama supported a ban on semiautomatic weapons and tighter restrictions on firearms generally. "We can't be lulled into complacency," Broun said. "You have to remember that Adolf Hitler was elected in a democratic Germany. I'm not comparing him to Adolf Hitler. What I'm saying is there is the potential." Obama's transition office did not respond immediately to Broun's remarks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamakatsu Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 As acknowledged by the man himself, "crazy and off base." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunner Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Sometimes, it really does seem like a stretch saying that Obama's going to try to backdoor this 'Civilian Security Force'. (If he could actually pull it off, would the next step be the intent to negate the 'individual' RKBA, and limit the 'right' to participents of the new 'militia'? ) I know Mr. Obama wishes to greatly expand the 'volunteer' corps. Would this be his foot in the door? The proverbial camels nose under the tent? A surreptitious way to create an army of Obama minions? It may well be prudent to remain vigilante, but it is still a mite early to go Paul Revere over the theoretical. The wary eye will suffice for present. "I think, that all right thinking people, are sick & tired of being told that they're sick & tired of being sick & tired. I, for one, am not. And I'm sick & tired of being told that I am." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sudsy Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 It may well be prudent to remain vigilante, but it is still a mite early to go Paul Revere over the theoretical. The wary eye will suffice for present. Agreed, and that's not just because it's Obama, it should always be the case no matter who is in office. Thomas Jefferson wrote that the only way to keep a strong central government from sooner or later becoming a tyranny is the constant vigilance of the common citizen. All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent. ~ Thomas Jefferson Every government degenerates when trusted to the rulers of the people alone. The people themselves are its only safe depositories. ~ Thomas Jefferson Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. ~ Thomas Jefferson I know of no safe depository of the ultimate powers of the society but the people themselves; and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them but to inform their discretion. ~ Thomas Jefferson The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. Every citizen should be a soldier. This was the case with the Greeks and Romans, and must be that of every free state. ~ Thomas Jefferson The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. ~ Thomas Jefferson I just wanta play everyday despite small nagging injuries -- and go home to a woman who appreciates how full of crap I truly am. ~ Crash Davis Social Distancing since 1962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GotFish? Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 By BEN EVANS, 2 hours ago WASHINGTON (AP) - A Republican congressman from Georgia said Monday he fears that President-elect Obama will establish a Gestapo-like security force to impose a Marxist or fascist dictatorship. "It may sound a bit crazy and off base, but the thing is, he's the one who proposed this national security force," Rep. Paul Broun said of Obama in an interview Monday with The Associated Press. "I'm just trying to bring attention to the fact that we may - may not, I hope not - but we may have a problem with that type of philosophy of radical socialism or Marxism." Broun cited a July speech by Obama that has circulated on the Internet in which the then-Democratic presidential candidate called for a civilian force to take some of the national security burden off the military. "That's exactly what Hitler did in Nazi Germany and it's exactly what the Soviet Union did," Broun said. "When he's proposing to have a national security force that's answering to him, that is as strong as the U.S. military, he's showing me signs of being Marxist." Obama's comments about a national security force came during a speech in Colorado about building a new civil service corps. Among other things, he called for expanding the nation's foreign service and doubling the size of the Peace Corps "to renew our diplomacy." "We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set," Obama said in July. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded." Broun said he also believes Obama likely will move to ban gun ownership if he does build a national police force. Obama has said he respects the Second Amendment right to bear arms and favors "common sense" gun laws. Gun rights advocates interpret that as meaning he'll at least enact curbs on ownership of assault weapons and concealed weapons. As an Illinois state lawmaker, Obama supported a ban on semiautomatic weapons and tighter restrictions on firearms generally. "We can't be lulled into complacency," Broun said. "You have to remember that Adolf Hitler was elected in a democratic Germany. I'm not comparing him to Adolf Hitler. What I'm saying is there is the potential." Obama's transition office did not respond immediately to Broun's remarks What ******** is this?? If anyone is to be compared to Hitler it has to be George W. Bush. Go and watch "No End in Sight" and "Sale of Iraq" both are documentaries. Go with facts, not with Bi-Partisanship. Considered yourself enlightened if you dare watch these documentaries. It boils me how some can come up with these stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishMist Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 WASHINGTON (AP) - A Republican congressman from Georgia said ....... That's where I stopped reading!!! [sIGPIC][sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triet Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 We need a civilian force to fight the US military when they turn on the people. Happy Vet's day! Your boy is going to be a big flop in Washington, and I can't wait till it happens.-Rocky RhodesMccain is weak, lame and a poor choice for President-JimP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF3 Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 By BEN EVANS, 2 hours ago WASHINGTON (AP) - A Republican congressman from Georgia said Monday he fears that President-elect Obama will establish a Gestapo-like security force to impose a Marxist or fascist dictatorship. "It may sound a bit crazy and off base, but the thing is, he's the one who proposed this national security force," Rep. Paul Broun said of Obama in an interview Monday with The Associated Press. "I'm just trying to bring attention to the fact that we may - may not, I hope not - but we may have a problem with that type of philosophy of radical socialism or Marxism." What is your problem Have you ever looked around and said "I think" I predict you'll be locked up within the next 4 years I like EVERYONE, except for some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 come on, he's from Georgia. he's got surrneder monkey blood. of course the guy is afraid of his own shadow. what a, puss! LOL! gestapo! LOL! those big bad PETA freaks and gay marriage guys are gonna slap him in the face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditch Jigger Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 I suppose that pointing out that Hitler was never "democratically elected" to anything in Germany would be pointless to this kook. He's not alone in that misconception, though. "…if catching fish is your only objective, you are either new to the game or too narrowly focused on measurable results.” - D. Stuver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnmagician Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 I'll wait to hear what Obama actually DOES before I soil myself, odd though that the crowd who is so worried now, has been so comfortable with the notion of Blackwater setting up shop domestically, and taking over border security and other tasks. Eggy 10-13 LAA 7-14 50-50 2-15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBHarvey Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Nor is our President. I prefer peace. But if trouble must come, let it come in my time, so that my children can live in peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBHarvey Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 ...Blackwater setting up shop domestically, and taking over border security and other tasks. I prefer peace. But if trouble must come, let it come in my time, so that my children can live in peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_M Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 What's really funny is how Federal cops from about 80 agencies are already training in Georgia and have been for years. Flectc aka as "Club Fed" has been cranking out federal cops for over 30 years. See you on the big one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homerisadope Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 The man's an idiot, and so is anybody else who buys into that nonsense. Stupid concerns for stupid people. Ordinary ****ing people - I hate 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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