Skate Bait Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 THE Bush Administration is on a tear to enact a slew of federal "un-regulations" in the waning days of the presidency, pushing through a wave of last-minute rule-making without customary checks and balances and oversight usually afforded such action. So much for transparency in government. The administration apparently aims to leave office the same way it came in, embracing a public policy process that disregards openness and avoids rigorous scrutiny by Congress or the public. While the country has been preoccupied with the election, administration operatives have been greasing the skids for a number of proposals that critics warn could adversely affect consumers, the environment, and public safety. Some of the changes would lift or ease constraints on private industry, including power plants, mines, and farms. These include relaxing standards for imported seafood and emissions from oil refineries, chemical factories, and other manufacturing plants, as well as prevention and containment of oil spills. Other changes would permit Interior Department officials to approve development projects without fully consulting federal wildlife and habitat scientists about endangered species or other environmental concerns. Federal agencies swamped with the deluge of the altered regulations are running out of time to review them, let alone invite outside input with scheduled periods for public comment. That's all by design. The administration wants to make it exceedingly difficult for the new administration due in January to change what it's done. While virtually every administration tries to pass some final rules and regulations before leaving for legacy's sake, the business-friendly Bush folks have elevated deregulation to an art form. All this will mean less protection for the public and more bad and costly policy for the country to overcome. Think of it as a parting gift from George W. Bush. http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll...ON02/811080338 Politics is like driving - it's "R" to go backwards, and "D" to go forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Williams Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 I know.... I know... Poor thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 THE Bush Administration is on a tear to enact a slew of federal "un-regulations" in the waning days of the presidency, pushing through a wave of last-minute rule-making without customary checks and balances and oversight usually afforded such action. So much for transparency in government. The administration apparently aims to leave office the same way it came in, embracing a public policy process that disregards openness and avoids rigorous scrutiny by Congress or the public. While the country has been preoccupied with the election, administration operatives have been greasing the skids for a number of proposals that critics warn could adversely affect consumers, the environment, and public safety. Some of the changes would lift or ease constraints on private industry, including power plants, mines, and farms. These include relaxing standards for imported seafood and emissions from oil refineries, chemical factories, and other manufacturing plants, as well as prevention and containment of oil spills. Other changes would permit Interior Department officials to approve development projects without fully consulting federal wildlife and habitat scientists about endangered species or other environmental concerns. Federal agencies swamped with the deluge of the altered regulations are running out of time to review them, let alone invite outside input with scheduled periods for public comment. That's all by design. The administration wants to make it exceedingly difficult for the new administration due in January to change what it's done. While virtually every administration tries to pass some final rules and regulations before leaving for legacy's sake, the business-friendly Bush folks have elevated deregulation to an art form. All this will mean less protection for the public and more bad and costly policy for the country to overcome. Think of it as a parting gift from George W. Bush. http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll...ON02/811080338 any facts to back that up? "Ok, Eddy you were right" - minivin5 "Oddly enough, Eddy is right fairly often"- TimS "Eddy is correct" - TomT "Say what you will about Eh-ddy but he actually does know a few things." - The Commish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebe Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 any facts to back that up? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...004749_pf.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltydawg Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 The administration apparently aims to leave office the same way it came in I thought the White House was in perfect order when he took over???? Is Clintopia a farce??? - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...004749_pf.html and what ones do you disagree with, and why? "Ok, Eddy you were right" - minivin5 "Oddly enough, Eddy is right fairly often"- TimS "Eddy is correct" - TomT "Say what you will about Eh-ddy but he actually does know a few things." - The Commish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Punk Freud Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 any facts to back that up? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...103004749.html That gives officials just a few more weeks to meet an effective Nov. 20 deadline for the publication of economically significant rules, which take legal effect only after a 60-day congressional comment period. Less important rules take effect after a 30-day period, creating a second deadline of Dec. 20. As the deadlines near, the administration has begun to issue regulations of great interest to industry, including, in recent days, a rule that allows natural gas pipelines to operate at higher pressures and new Homeland Security rules that shift passenger security screening responsibilities from airlines to the federal government. The OMB also approved a new limit on airborne emissions of lead this month, acting under a court-imposed deadline. Many of the rules that could be issued over the next few weeks would ease environmental regulations, according to sources familiar with administration deliberations. A rule put forward by the National Marine Fisheries Service and now under final review by the OMB would lift a requirement that environmental impact statements be prepared for certain fisheries-management decisions and would give review authority to regional councils dominated by commercial and recreational fishing interests. An Alaska commercial fishing source, granted anonymity so he could speak candidly about private conversations, said that senior administration officials promised to "get the rule done by the end of this month" and that the outcome would be a big improvement. Lee Crockett of the Pew Charitable Trusts' Environment Group said the administration has received 194,000 public comments on the rule and protests from 80 members of Congress as well as 160 conservation groups. "This thing is fatally flawed" as well as "wildly unpopular," Crockett said. Two other rules nearing completion would ease limits on pollution from power plants, a major energy industry goal for the past eight years that is strenuously opposed by Democratic lawmakers and environmental groups. One rule, being pursued over some opposition within the Environmental Protection Agency, would allow current emissions at a power plant to match the highest levels produced by that plant, overturning a rule that more strictly limits such emission increases. According to the EPA's estimate, it would allow millions of tons of additional carbon dioxide into the atmosphere annually, worsening global warming. A related regulation would ease limits on emissions from coal-fired power plants near national parks. A third rule would allow increased emissions from oil refineries, chemical factories and other industrial plants with complex manufacturing operations. These rules "will force Americans to choke on dirtier air for years to come, unless Congress or the new administration reverses these eleventh-hour abuses," said lawyer John Walke of the Natural Resources Defense Council. Destroying psychological barriers to the stateless society of free people since 1966. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canyondiver Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 I know.... I know... Poor thing. You should be scared Robert. Industry would take the environment with them if they could, and regulations to protect it are vital. People are very poor at self regulation and this is really shameful. Proud to be a NERB and I have the shirts to prove it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plugged Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 I wish people would stop feigning outrage and actually say what they actually disagree with and why these posts are just endless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Williams Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 You should be scared Robert. Industry would take the environment with them if they could, and regulations to protect it are vital. People are very poor at self regulation and this is really shameful. I agree. Industry would trash the environment to an intolerable level if left completely unregulated (and we know that because things were much, much worse during the 60's and 70's) but let's not automatically assume that every adjustment of legislation is designed to trash the environment for the sake of making money and paying off buds. On the way out of office, Clinton dropped some bombs on Bush, including "progressive" environmental legislation that industry simply wasn't going to be able to meet and Bush is now adressing some of that. Nothing wrong with being an environmental watchdog. I'm glad they're out there, but we can't go running to the fields every time they cry "wolf" and we can't say "to hell with the economy. No compromise on any environmental issues". Or at least we can't do that and then ***** about jobs getting shipped overseas, loss of manufacturing, no new power plants, excessive government spending, etc. etc. etc. etc. Everything has consequences. Knee-jerk environmentalism causes a lot more harm than good. I love trees and wildlife, hunting and fishing as much or more than anyone. I also like living in a country with a sound economy and we'd better focus on that before it's too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nessmuk Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 I wish people would stop feigning outrage and actually say what they actually disagree with and why these posts are just endless This would take actual thought. And that's too HHHAAAAAARRRRDDDDD... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flat addicted Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 The rule being challenged by the National Marine Fisheries is so far reaching its preventing progress. I own a small business that operates on public land and is regulated by the NFS. The required EIS's reach so far down the line ya gotta have one to fart on the National Forest. This law prevents progress on the smallest level by tying things up federally. All at the cost of small business. Don't get me wrong....I believe we need the regulation on our public lands, but not when destroys the very concept in which it is meant to protect. That law simply NEEDS to be changed. "Quality before Quantity" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Williams Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 The rule being challenged by the National Marine Fisheries is so far reaching its preventing progress. I own a small business that operates on public land and is regulated by the NFS. The required EIS's reach so far down the line ya gotta have one to fart on the National Forest. This law prevents progress on the smallest level by tying things up federally. All at the cost of small business. Don't get me wrong....I believe we need the regulation on our public lands, but not when destroys the very concept in which it is meant to protect. That law simply NEEDS to be changed. I know, but the environmental activist groups worry as much about the slippery slope as gun owners and abortion rights activists do. We, as the voting public, owe it to ourselves to try to find out the real issues behind the rhetoric. I've heard a lot lately about "change" being good, but ironically, it's the people who support "change" that are gainsaying this even though there's a hell of a strong argument that this change is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canyondiver Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 I wish people would stop feigning outrage and actually say what they actually disagree with and why these posts are just endless You mean like you do? All you seemingly do is throw poo at everyone and act like a bitter kid. I did say what I disagree with, but I guess you forgot to read and digest what I wrote? The rule being challenged by the National Marine Fisheries is so far reaching its preventing progress. I own a small business that operates on public land and is regulated by the NFS. The required EIS's reach so far down the line ya gotta have one to fart on the National Forest. This law prevents progress on the smallest level by tying things up federally. All at the cost of small business. Don't get me wrong....I believe we need the regulation on our public lands, but not when destroys the very concept in which it is meant to protect. That law simply NEEDS to be changed. Totally agree with you! I would love to see more aquaculture, but I would love to see it done in a way that is not overly damaging to the surrounding waters. I wonder if there is a way to filter/process the waste water, that is not too costly, and if aquaculturists can get a government grant to install these systems. Aquaculture is the future of our seafood industry, and is certainly worth spending some time and money on getting it running without too much environmental impact. What are you involved in, if I may ask? Proud to be a NERB and I have the shirts to prove it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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