likwid Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 http://www.japantoday.com/category/k...aseda-profesor Is Kim Jong Il dead? Yes, North Korea's "Dear Leader" is no more, having passed away in the fall of 2003, writes Waseda University professor Toshimitsu Shigemura in Shukan Gendai (Aug 23-30). A one-time Mainichi Shimbun journalist posted in Seoul, Shigemura is introduced by the magazine as a leading authority on the Korean Peninsula. His latest book, released this month, is titled "The True Character of Kim Jong Il." If true, the implications are potentially vast. Among them: former Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi's summit partner during one or both of his landmark visits to Pyongyang in 2002 and 2004 was not Kim himself but a dummy-the stand-in Shigemura claims has been fooling the world for at least five years. A dictator having one or multiple doubles is a familiar notion since Iraq's Saddam Hussein was shown to have deployed them. But Saddam was alive at the time. Kim, in Shigemura's scenario, was not manipulating a look-alike; he was replaced by one. Of course it's fantastic-but in North Korea, says Shigemura, fantasy and reality are not mutually exclusive. "Japanese common sense cannot take the measure of North Korea's uniqueness," he writes. "For example: Kim came to Tokyo six times in the 1980s." Then as now, North Korea and Japan had no diplomatic ties. Kim, then heir to the throne under his father, "Great Leader" Kim Il Sung, apparently traveled incognito by ship. His purpose: to take in the magic shows staged by magician Hikita Tenko at the upscale Cordon Bleu show pub in Akasaka. Shigemura cites as sources (without naming them) several people close to Kim's family. He hears from them that Kim's diabetes took a turn for the worse early in 2000. From then until his supposed death three and a half years later he was confined to a wheelchair. Was the flurry of diplomatic activity in which the world saw Kim engaged during those years mere sleight of hand? The "hermit kingdom" seemed all of a sudden to grow remarkably outgoing. In June 2000 Kim hosted the historic summit with South Korean President Kim Dae Jung. The following month, he received Russian President Vladimir Putin. In October his guest was U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright. In January 2001 he visited China; in August, Russia. In September 2002 there occurred the first summit with Koizumi, culminating in Kim's admission, after decades of denial from Pyongyang, that North Korean agents had kidnapped Japanese nationals. August 2003 saw the launch of the Six Party talks aimed at North Korea's nuclear disarmament. "Then suddenly," writes Shigemura in Shukan Gendai, "the pace slows." The second Kim-Koizumi summit, in 2004, lasted all of 90 minutes. Scheduled meetings with other foreign dignitaries were abruptly canceled. Kim's retreat from the public eye was almost total. State television in October 2003 showed him touring a collective farm, but mention of the date of the visit was conspicuously absent. Kim's family, meanwhile, was in a state of upheaval. His wife died-of breast cancer, said official reports; assassinated, according to persistent rumors. His favorite sister, a high-ranking Communist Party official, suddenly moved to Paris. Her husband lost his post. Clearly something was afoot. In the spring of 2006, says Shigemura, American spy satellites succeeded in photographing Kim. An analysis of the photographs led to an astonishing conclusion: Kim had grown 2.5 cm! "Recently," Shigemura proceeds, "someone who was in contact with a Kim family member told me he heard the family member say, 'There's been a promise not to decide on Kim's successor so long as the current shogun is alive.'" "'Shogun' was Kim's nickname," Shigemura explains "If Kim were alive, the family member would simply have said, 'the shogun'-not 'the current shogun.' The stress on 'current' seems to suggest that the person in question is someone other than Kim Jong Il." Shukan Gendai asks a government official who helped plan Koizumi's Pyongyang visits what he thinks of all this. His reply: "Rumors of a dummy Kim began circulating after the summit. Some of us said we should have Kim's voice prints analyzed. But if we did that and proved the prime minister had been conferring with a double, it could have destroyed the Koizumi administration. So we didn't proceed." the uk picked this up too http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article4692472.ece http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7715458.stm The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Kim Jong Il is dead I think theres a country song in there somewhere. “My happiness is not the means to any end. It is the end. It is its own goal. It is its own purpose.” Ayn Rand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunner Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 I think theres a country song in there somewhere. Or at least a showtune! Ding dong, Kim jong is dead The wicked witch, the sonouvabitch Ding dong , kim jong il is dead............... Click your heels, and repeat after me, 'There's no place like Pyongyang.....' "I think, that all right thinking people, are sick & tired of being told that they're sick & tired of being sick & tired. I, for one, am not. And I'm sick & tired of being told that I am." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Sobchak Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 So who croaked first, Il or Castro? laisser nous faire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight771 Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Gee, I hope they're both dead. But I would have liked to have taken out Castro myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyGrowler Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 I think theres a country song in there somewhere. Lonesome Cowboy KimInspired by FRANK ZAPPA My name is Kim Jong I am a redneck All my friends, They call me Shogun (Hi, Shogun!) All my family, From down in PyongYang Make their livin' Diggin' dirt Come out here to Californy, Just to find me Some pretty girls Ones I seen Gets me so horny; Ruby lips, 'N teeth like pearls! Wanna love 'em all! Wanna love 'em dearly! Wanna pretty girl- I'll even pay! I'll buy 'em furs! I'll buy 'em jewelry! I know they like me; Here's what I say: I'm lonesome Cowboy Kim! (Speakin' atcha!) Come smell my fringe-y shirt! (Reekin' atcha!) My cowboy pants, My cowboy dance, My bold advance, On this here waitress . . . Yodel-oh-oo-pee-hey Yodel-oh-oo-pee! (He's lonesome Cowboy Kim Don'tcha get his feelings hurt) Come on in this place, 'N I'll buy you a taste, You can sit on my face- Where's my waitress? KimJong, KimJong redneck KimJong, KimJong redneck I'm an awful nice guy! Sweat all day in the sun! Dictator by trade, Quite a bundle I've made, I'm communized dictatin' old Son-of-a-gun! (He's a communized dictatin' old Son-of-a-gun!) When I get off, I get plastered Drink till I fall onna floor, Find me some Capitalist bastard, 'N stomp on his face till he don't Move no more! (He stomps on his face till he don't Move no more!) I fuss, an' I cuss an' I keep on drinkin', Till my eyes puff up an' turn red! I drool on m'shirt, I see if he's hurt, Kick him again in the head, yes! Kick him again in the head, boys!-ac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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