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Thank you to Leatherface for writing this up - he knows their story well. I'm not sure exactly how the fundraiser thread part of this works - I did just add a forum for Christmas Family fundraising...it's going to be handled like an auction as I understand it - there's nothing in there yet, but the forum is ready - only Mrs Biggene, TLDig and Sudsy can start threads in there - anyone can respond Here's a link - http://www.stripersonline.com/surftalk/forum/87-christmas-family-auction-forum/ TimS