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  1. It’s been 24 years since I last caught a Maine bluefish. This morning was a nice surprise with multiple mid to high 30” blues. I know many people that have been catching them the past few years up here, but I’m not one of them. I sure hope they stick around for a little while! IMG_0780.MOV
  2. It’s been 24 years since I last caught a Maine bluefish. This morning was a nice surprise with multiple mid to high 30” blues. I know many people that have been catching them the past few years up here, but I’m not one of them. I sure hope they stick around for a little while!
  3. My first attempt to go go surf fishing in august was really incredible. Here is it.
  4. Anyone on here fly fish the coast of New Jersey for Albies,Blues,Striper? I have been there twice and have had mediocre luck and have caught weird species such as northern stargazers on the surf. Just curious if anyone on here chase the striper of albies on the surf with the fly rod in sept,nov,dec months.If so what have you found to be most productive with fly pattern,color, etc
  5. Recently purchased a Lamiglas Carbon Surf 10 ft rated 1-5 oz from Tomo's Tackle online. Want a back up for the upcoming fall run since my 10 ft ODM DNA 3/4-4oz is at the tackle shop. Reel seat was too small for my VSX 200. During a morning outing at the inlet, vsx kept slipping out of the fuigi reel seat every other cast . Switched to my St Croix triumph 9ft rated 1/2-2.5 oz. but it felt like noodle casting 2oz bucktails. Shop is putting a slightly bigger reel seat on the DNA. What do you think of the Carbon Surf?
  6. Mix of Roberts Rangers and Atoms. 45 or B/O shipped.
  7. I'm on vacation on the Vineyard this week. I was fishing up-island Monday morning from about 1:00 a.m. to sunrise. There was a nice light wind blowing directly into the beach. About 2 hours into the incoming tide the bite turned on. I was catching stripers that were progressively getting bigger when my needlefish got slammed. A 26" striper was the biggest one at this point. As I reeled in the fish I thought it would easily be a slot fish but hopefully not over. When I beached it I discovered I hooked a tank of a blue fish at 31", and guesstimated at about 12lbs. That was the big fish of the night. A blurple needlefish was the hot lure on the cloudy, dark night. As sunrise approached birds started to show up and there was a lot of fish activity in the water. However they weren't stripers. I put in a 5/8 oz silver Hogy epoxy then proceeded to catch shad like crazy. They were fun to catch. I was getting multiple hits on every cast. The shad were also putting on great aerial shows as they tried to throw my hook. They were mostly about 12"-14" big. Unfortunately I was traveling lightly that night. I didn't have any bait hooks so I could use a small shad as bait to see if any big fish were on them. I also left the box with my sebile magic swimmers in the car.
  8. Lot of 23 Sand eels. I have priced them out at $1.50 each, so $34.50 plus $7.50 shipping in USPS small flat rate box. The price is firm. PayPal.
  9. I came across a good read I found to be accurate and from someone I have read numerous articles from over many years. Between his PHD and his years of experience on the water, it says something about the individual which commands a level of respect as well as an ear to what he is saying. I have seen some posts on social media saying this is a great year and that there are big bass being caught up and down the coast. Well, I do agree there are some big bass being caught. I know, I caught a few of them. However, there always is no matter how bad things get but that is not an accurate depiction of the fishery. In my case my spring was horrendous, the summer I was out of commission with shoulder surgery and my fall was meh. I managed a number of slot of fish, a few over and one really big one but other than that it sucked outside of a 3 week period. The last bluefish I saw were in the spring and what I used to catch years ago could eat them. We have a long way to go and when the time comes, we need to speak up or else this is what we have to look forward to which in my opinion isn't much. This fall I should have solid action with bass and blues of all sizes from Labor Day all the way into December depending on the weather. Instead, I got 3 weeks of decent bass action with a few good fish. Sad. November 2020 by William A. Muller Clearly, recent decades have witnessed trends in both surf fishing for blues and striped bass, and to remain connected to the fish during these changes, anglers need to adapt on the run. In the last 10 years, most autumns have produced runs of stripers on the south shore. In 2010 there was a good showing of 18- to 24-inch stripers with a few giant blues mixed in. In 2013 there was a fantastic three week run of large stripers with no blues; at least that I caught or saw. In 2017 an angler could catch 60 to 80 stripers a day but they were all 14 to 20 inches and no bluefish. Finally, in 2019 there were good numbers of mostly 20- to 28-inch stripers and no blues. Do we see a trend? Do these fall runs suggest that striped bass stocks are in very good shape? Do these runs suggest a precipitous decline in bluefish? The answers are, yes, no, and yes. Trends: November Schoolies Clearly, recent decades have witnessed trends in both surf fishing for blues and striped bass, and to remain connected to the fish during these changes, anglers need to adapt on the run. As bait and fish populations wax and wane, anglers may find that last month’s or last year’s techniques and favored lures are either more or less effective. To understand this, let’s go back in time and remind ourselves what surf fishing was like prior to 1980. Of course, shortly after 1980, the striper population took a steep nose dive. The decline brought about a striper harvest moratorium that set the stage for a recovery of the species and fantastic striper fishing in the 1990s. In those days, a surf angler’s fall run began in early to mid-September after the first nor’easter or sharp cold front that initiated the mullet run. Within weeks the mullet run was exhausted and sometimes there would be a short lull in the action before peanut bunker, anchovies, or some other small bait moved west along the south shore. The second phase of the run lasted into October and was often followed by a second short lull before sand eels moved inshore. These long multi-phased fall runs were possible not only because of sequential abundant bait, but because the coastal migration was very large and there were many large schools of stripers and blues stretched out along the coast, including resident New York stripers. It was resident stripers that responded to the mullet and then moved west with them. Unfortunately, we don’t have a lot of south shore resident stripers these days due to a variety of reasons. The later stages of the multi-phase fall runs were primarily a result of many large, or mega, schools, of Chesapeake stripers along the coast, and competition would cause some of them to leave Massachusetts early when small baits began leaving the estuaries. Finally, at the end of the run were the last few schools that lingered off New England before moving south in November. These stripers arrived in our waters just in time to feast on sand eels. By late November and early December the action consisted mostly of Hudson fish that didn’t have far to go to reach their winter hang outs. Stocks: Today, many scientists and managers believe that striped bass stocks have declined significantly so that there may be only one mega school of Chesapeake stripers (largest stock) and therefore, we get fall striper runs with only one phase. Furthermore, a recent lack of blues in the fall accentuates the lulls in striper fishing. Sadly, bluefish stocks have collapsed due to many years of fair to poor recruitment, overharvesting, and a pattern of denial from the Mid-Atlantic regional Fisheries Management Council, but our catch data supports the reality. Although we began warning managers about the decline as early as the late 1980s, it took a depressing recent stock assessment to produce a management adjustment of three blues per day per independent angler, and five for anglers on boats-for-hire. New Reality: A hallmark of good surf fishermen is an ability to adapt to changes in bait, fish abundance, beach structure, and regulations. In the present reality, we must adjust to few weakfish and bluefish, and one mega school of stripers. Sadly, an historical reality is absent for many newcomers who believe that current surf fishing is as good today as it ever has been. It’s also true that decades ago more bass over ten pounds were caught throughout the long fall run. In those decades the only pure small fish runs occurred after Thanksgiving. This last push of tiny fish was the signal to surf rats that the season was over. Many old timers grouse about the lack of big fish and sometimes stop fishing because of it. However, let me suggest that since fishing is about fun, why not adapt in order to have fun under the present conditions, rather than stubbornly hold onto the past. While making the best of the “now”, we can hope for a brighter future and fight for better management. Adjusting Our Attitudes: Many surf anglers have decided not to scoff at the present reality and are attempting to adjust attitudes first and tackle second. Attitude adjustment begins with a willingness to enjoy fishing. Accepting the present reality rather insisting on a past standard that no longer exists. The old reality may return someday or, it may not, but in the meantime let’s have fun. Once we get our brains adjusted to the real world, we can reexamine our tackle. In the post WWII era, surf tackle was very different. Rods, reels, and lines were not as user friendly or dependable. When monofilament line found its way into the fishery and replaced linen line, it seemed to be a miracle. Then spinning reels, then better spinning reels, and fiberglass rods. Wow! What a difference those advances made. We used mostly 11-foot rods, and coffee grinder (because they were noisy) spinning reels, and 15-pound test mono with a long shocker of 25-pound test. That tackle caught fish, but there was a lot of maintenance on reels. Thankfully, their designs were simple so we could easily repair them. I used a Penn 706Z for decades and carried a bin full of parts so I could make repairs on the tail gate of my truck in minutes and get back in the action. No one could possibly dream of using a 9-foot rod and small reel at Montauk or in the south shore surf, and when we tried to do it on the north shore in quiet water the results were also disappointing. We employed honey colored glass rods and the reel to use was the Penn 710. The honey fiberglass was so limber that combined with stretchy monofilament line it was difficult to sink a hook. Catching a really big fish was more like taming a runaway bull than catching a fish. The Penn reel was a great reel in its day, but unless you lined up the bail just so, it would flop over on a cast and your lure would begin a joy-ride to Connecticut. Today’s Tackle: Today’s tackle is so advanced that it makes many things possible that were never possible before. For example, in recent years I’ve been using a 7-foot graphite rod paired to a VS 150, and 20-pound test braid on the north shore. This combination is so responsive, sensitive, and powerful that it has allowed me to catch and enjoy large and smaller fish alike. I don’t use it on the south shore for several reasons: a need for distance, winds in your face, the frequent need for large lures, and big waves. The demands of these factors require the use of a 9-foot graphite rod, VS 200, and 20-pound test braid. This 9-foot outfit can do what my old 11-foot gear did in the 1970s, is much lighter, and more sensitive. There are precious few occasions when I wish I had an 11-foot setup. November Schoolies It has become increasingly important for anglers to release fish carefully and reduced catch and release mortality. The advantage of this lighter tackle is obvious when one considers the runs of smaller fish that have been available in the last ten years. Even 16-inch stripers put a bend in my 9-footer, whereas the fight would have been almost non-existent on a true south shore 11-foot combo. But my 9-foot combo has the power to tame larger fish without stress. Last fall I caught a 26-pound striper on that outfit and never once felt out of control. By the way, the same outfit served me just as well in the fall of 2013 when almost all the fish were large. I’ve made other adjustments to the smaller fish trend. I rarely use anything but single hook lures so that I do less damage to the fish I release, it’s safer for me, and I can remove fish quickly and catch another one. Bucktails, feathered metal lures, metal lures with tubes, and lead-heads with soft plastic are my main stays on both shores, but the ones I use on the south shore are typically heavier. Although my 9-footer can cast almost as far as my old 11-foot outfit, I’ve discovered that it’s often a waste of time to lean into a cast in an attempt to reach the outer bar. There seem to be as many stripers close to the shoreline as there are out near the bar. Sure, there are still many anglers with 11-foot gear and I watched them lean into casts with Ava 27 and 37 diamond jigs, get near the bar, hook up and drag little fish to the beach without much of a fight. At the end of the day, they haven’t gotten the fights out of the stripers that I did and their shoulders and necks were sore. Sometimes adjustments are premature, but sometimes they are timely and better. Plug Bag: Since I’m using lighter tackle and tend to work fish that are close to the beach and at my feet, I’ve been carrying lighter lures, too. Lighter rods and reels and lighter lures mean my body isn’t nearly as abused as it was when I wielded the 11-footer, and since my bag is lighter there is much less weight on my neck and shoulders. About 90% of the time lures weighing between 1 and 1-1/2 ounces are effective. I do carry one heavy “tin” and one 2-ounce bucktail just in case, but rarely need to use them. This brings us back to an angler’s state of mind. If he/she believes that the best way to catch fall run stripers is with the big tackle, then that’s what the angler will use. If the angler doesn’t try new approaches, they will never understand the advantages of lighter gear, even when they watch other anglers catch lots of fish on lighter tackle. Perhaps they pray for an unlikely tuna fish to rumble through the trough and attack their lure, or maybe it’s just habit. Whatever the mindset, my experience mentoring new surf anglers has taught me that it is difficult to change a mindset regardless of how much common sense and visual evidence is at hand. However, that doesn’t change the facts. Today’s technologies have made light rods and reels just as effective as the bigger gear of yesteryear, and since fall runs have been, and are likely to continue to be, dominated by smaller fish, maybe it’s time for a change. I don’t want to plane small fish to the sand, rather I want to experience full contact with Nature and let those fish show off a little. Now, you are reading an article written by a guy that, as a boy, fished for big killifish with a small safety pin and mussels when no one could take him fishing. This guy enjoys big weaks, blues, and stripers, but also bluegills, yellow perch, and snappers. I just love fishing, the connection to nature, the interplay with a living creature that I don’t have to kill but must fool: it’s very satisfying. Adaptation police don’t exist, and there are many ways to “skin a cat”, but the smart play involves giving a little thought to how you might get more enjoyment out of our south shore fall runs of fish, don’t you think? After all, isn’t fun the object of the game?
  10. Growing up in south Brooklyn I remember in the mid-80s to the early 90s when fishing would pick up with big blues around the 3rd week of August and last all the way into November depending on the weather. I would see huge blues crashing big bunker schools out front and in the bay. The blues I am referring to are those 30 plus inch fish and not the 1 to 2lbers that I see people catching now. It’s really a sight to see when you have butterfish beaching themselves and big blues jumping clear out of the water in the middle of bait fish schools. When the striped bass made a comeback, we had action from spring into July and then the fishing would pick up again around Labor Day and last until December. Prior to the resurgence we would have a couple of weeks of decent action with 15” to 20” rats in the spring and in the fall. When the 1 @ 36” was in place those same locations were now consistently yielding fish in the 15 to 20lb range. Years ago, especially in the fall, the cold dreary days would equate to excellent fishing. As a kid in school I could remember how anxious I was for the school day to end and then walking down to the water knowing I was going to have a great outing with big fish. However, more recently quite the opposite has occurred. I remember not too long ago in October with a 30-mpg blow in your face and the presence of sand eels yielded only 1 schoolie bass. That is pretty terrible and unheard of 10 years ago. I also have not heard of the insane fishing up at the canal nor the jumbo blues that were in our waters up until a few years ago. I don’t like restrictive laws any more than the next person but without them there isn’t going to be much left. You take years of low recruitment with the same size/bag limit laws in place, it’s going to bring us to exactly where we are now. Believe it or not the giant grouper at one point were practically non-existent. Nowadays I hear and have seen online there are so many of them that they are practically a nuisance. This changed due to the much more restrictive measures that were needed at that time. The way things are going, I am afraid that viable surf fishing in my home waters will be a thing of the past. Don’t get me wrong it is nice to be out but the enjoyment of pulling 20” bass or a 2lb bluefish from the surf using a 10’ surf rod pales in comparison to consistently catching teen sized plus fish. Sure, there are always going to be big bass and big blues out there, somewhere. However, I grew up around the corner from the water and got into fishing because of the proximity of the water to my house. This is the same reason why I shouldn’t have to drive 35 plus miles to find decent fishing. A lot of these same arguments as to why the fish aren’t around now were more or less the same nearly 40 years ago when in reality overfishing was the main culprit. If you have a passion for fishing like I do, my suggestion is for each of you to write/call your governor and the associated fishery managers when the time comes. That is our only chance to reverse this trend. I only hope that we are not too late to return to the days when a 30” bass or bluefish are not anomalies.
  11. Hi Everybody, I'm coming to Cape Cod pretty soon on vacation with my parents and we're staying in Harwich. Now, I don't usually fish for Stripers; I usually either fish for Lmb or I jig some blues on a pier in Long Island, but I'm excited to try to catch some nice stripers. The issue is that I don't really have the right gear for Cape Cod, whether it's fishing surf or fishing the Canal, or some other spots. It would be really awesome if someone could recommend a spot near Harwich, as well as some gear or a nice local. bait shop. Many thanks, Tight lines
  12. I own 4 BG 5000's and a Saltist 4000 and they're great. I have them set up on 3 St. Croix 7' HM Tidemasters for stripers/blues/albies, and a 4th on a St. Croix Mojo 10'6" surf rod. While they're durable and powerful rods, they're a bit heavy and overkill for spring schoolie fishing and funnyfish in the fall. I just purchased a medium-moderate 7' St. Croix Avid for a finesse setup. I've had my eyes on the new Stradic FL for months because of its light weight and smooth retrieve. My biggest question that I'm struggling with is what size to get. I'm torn between the 3000 and the 4000. I like the idea of having as small/light of a reel as possible for making fights with smaller fish more fun, but I want to make sure that the reel could handle a fight with a 20+ pounder if I happen to hook into a larger bass/gator blue. Looking for insight. I've only fished Daiwa and Penn reels in the past and am new to Shimano reels and the Stradic line. I've been hearing great things about the Stradic FL, but don't know anyone personally that's used it for stripers/blues/albies. Thanks!
  13. Came across these pics in FB which was taken on 2/22 in long island south shore. my questions are, what kind of fish is this seal munching on? if shad, blue, striper or whatever fish, etc, is it possible these moved into our water already or residential ones?
  14. Hi. I'm new here. I wanted to ask for some pointers and possibly share some information about fishing *the south shore. My son and I are reasonably experienced fishermen. But we're entirely new to Jamaica Bay and all of the South Shore for fishing - and fairly new to blues and stripers. For the last couple months we've been renting a small boat and fishing for blues and stripers in the back *. We've probably gone out 7 or 8 times, starting in early September. We've caught a lot of nice, if not wildly large blues and stripers, a few into the 7 or 8 pound range, all catch and release. We're working entirely off the surface, using lures, hunting around for surface commotion and baitfish getting corralled near shores and marshes etc. Last weekend we went out and we didn't see a single instance of surface commotion and we didn't even get a bite, let alone catch any fish. Clearly something pretty dramatic had changed from the previous six weeks. But we were in the dark about what. I was especially curious because my understanding at least was that blues and stripers in that area should be heating up over October rather than trailing off. Has anyone else seen that shift in the same area or in that general area. And for those who know the area better are there obvious things about recent weather or the runs or anything else that would explain it? Obviously, sometimes a day is just a bum day and it's a fluke. But it seemed like something more than that. So I'm curious if anyone has any thoughts, has seen the same thing or has any ideas based on knowledge of that water. Thanks in advance! Josh
  15. anyone fishing the town of oyster bay bluefish tournament this year?
  16. I know many of you may not like eating bluefish, but I love it. I bleed it out, ice it down, and freeze it when I get home, and it opens the door to many possibilities. I smoke it, bake it, and have even eaten it raw after it's been previously frozen for safety (judge if you must). If I'm baking it, I like to use some lemon pepper, salt, black pepper, and olive oil. Drizzle the fillets in the olive oil in a baking dish, work them around so they're fairly coated, and cut up some vidalia onions and lay them over top and around the fillets. Once everything's oiled up, sprinkle the aforementioned spices all over, and bake at 350 for 15-20 minutes depending on the size of the fillets. Delicious! I've also used this recipe for spanish and cero mackerel, I think it'd be good with any oily fish.
  17. Never read anything like it about blues. How is that possible? Anyone knows anything like it? Not sure about the link rules here, so ill drop the pix. Best Viete
  18. I had a chat with some last weekend on the way I used to fish back in the 70s and early 80s before I went into the Air Force. The fishing techniques and gear today seems very different from what I look on as those Halcyon days of my childhood and youth. I used to go fishing with my dad, my uncles, and sometimes my grandfather. My grandfather used a hand line and seemed to through it out a mile. And usually out-fished everyone. My uncles and dad used 12-foot, one-piece custom rods one my uncle's would make from Harnell blanks and Penn Squidders from both frontside and backside piers like Seaside Heights or Ocean City. One of my uncles, who went to Italy often, had a Delfino Zangi spinning reel and a rod made by my other uncle especially for it. W Back then, it seemed Harnell and Fenwick were the gold standard for rods. We all eventually shifted to Daiwa and Penn spinners except Uncle Sal - who made the rods. We caught blowfish out back of Seaside, Blues off boats (with 5-foot broomstick boatrods) out of Atlantic City or Barnegat, Kingfish and Blues from the surf, and Weakfish from the pier - as well as the usual trash fish. Fluking was something done around the pilings of the pier when the other bite wasn't on. Stripers were the creatures of legend that we never saw. Most of our fishing was bait and wait. Heave it out there, rest the rod on pier railing and BS waiting for the bite. As soon as the first hit happened, everyone was on the rail working it. My uncle who made the rods also made most of the rigs - which usually included his hand-painted "dipsy-doodles" or doodle bugs - small cigar floats - to keep the bait off the bottom and (mostly) away from the crabs. Out on boats. we bottom fished for seabass, ling, etc. or drifted for Blues and Bonito. No Gulp. No Bucktail jigs or teasers. And the only lures we used in salt was a Hopkins when the Blues were chopping some bunker on the surface. Does anyone else remember fishing like this?
  19. Fished my usual SS inlet today (outgoing tide). Mainly targeting fluke. After a few shorts I noticed many cocktail blues swimming around just feet from the shore in about 2-3 ft of water. As I walked the beach they seemed to be everywhere. Quickly switched out my fluke setup for my “squidding the beach” setup. Not one hookup or follow up. Then continued to try the whole arsenal (tins, assorted poppers/plugs, diamond jigs, bucktails, SP minnows, some soft plastics.....) nada. Has anyone encountered this. It seemed pretty strange for blues to not hit anything.
  20. Lot 1 $30 shipped 3 Line Stretcher Surface Tension (3oz, 2oz, 1.25oz), new. 2 Robert Rangers 2-1/4oz, barely used. Lot 2 $30 shipped Braid GT Minnow Storm Flatstick jointed 16 Bomber Longshot 7, HD7 and 2 HD5. Top 2 have been used, bombers just carried. Take all for $50 shipped.
  21. I grew fishing in the 80s when the Striped Bass fishing was terrible. Thankfully, we had big Blues to fill in that void. That is no longer the case and hasn't been so for a number of years where I fish on the SS of LI. Just recently they gave the unused recs quota to the comms which made absolutely no sense to me. Does anyone know if there is a new stock assessment coming up or is anything being done to address this?
  22. Was looking through my log for the past 5-6 years or so and let me know if anyone has any thoughts on this theory: The near complete lack of bluefish the past two seasons has been detrimental to the fall run of striped bass from the surf. Bluefish blitzes used to push bait, adult bunker, peanuts, etc into the surf and bigger sized stripers would move either mixed in with the blues to clean up the mess or just after the blues moved on. Bass now have no incentive to clean up the scraps of the bluefish in the surf and stay offshore to feed on adult bunker schools. Now we are left with smaller bait in the surf, rain fish, spearing, pockets of sand eels and other small baits for schoolies to feed on. There are obviously more than one factor as to why the surf run hasn't been good for a while now such as beach replenishment, the recent storm patterns ect. But I'm a little alarmed by the considerable lack of blues for the second year in a row now. It's a real shame that slaughter happened 3-4 years ago around here. Tight Lines!
  23. Dare I ask - How do I buy the proper parking permit for fishing areas out on the East End of Long Island - in mid-October. I'm ok with the local rich people making it difficult to fish anything out there except crowded ole' Montauk - but just don't make it impossible for me please. I know all those other areas out there hold fish often.
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