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I’m new to this site, as well as these Penn Z’s. I noticed there is a plethora of knowledge passed on this site. My question may already have been answered somewhere on here, I just can’t find it! The issue is I purchased a Penn 710z and I would like to clean the entire thing. I have no idea what any of the parts are made of, or what cleaners I can use on any of the parts. I also noticed that my bail spring probably needs replaced. The bail just doesn’t act right when it flips forward or back. I’ve never taken one apart, so I’m not really hip to all the little nuances and tricks that one may need to know before attempting this. And I desperately need a website that sells the old parts off these reels because it needs an emblem, and the stickers on the rotor cup. Any and all help is appreciated. These reels are tanks. I currently have a 722z set up for hunting pike here in central Michigan. I’ve never seen a reel this small take the beating these athletic pike are dishing out. This is the reason for my 710….drag washers on the 722 are getting tired so I’m setting up a beefier pike Hunter reel and retiring the 722 to purely bass/perch/bluegill fishing. Also, where can I find 722 drag washers?

Selling a used Penn 710z in great condition that i recently serviced and packed with grease. Comes with a bailess kit installed and the original bail wire as well. Price is $50 shipped. Thanks for looking!

All gear in very good condition Loomis SUR1142S, great Bomber, SP Minnow Rod 3/8oz-1.5oz 9'6" $150 Penn 710Z, made bail-less. Loaded with 20 lb Fireline. 704z handle, extra spool w/20 lb mono $75 Feels great as a combo! Combo price $200 Tsunami Trophy TSTSS702M. It's 7 ft, 2pc, rated 1/2 to 2oz. $40 Tica Libra SA3500. Everything in VG shape, the reel was serviced at Tica, and not used since. It has 20 (or 30) lb braid, but it has been on a while. $40 Combo price $70 Prices are for gear picked up near Parsippany, NJ (or meet up) Cash/check/MO

I think all the knowledge can be pulled form all the VS vs. ZB vs. Penn Torque topics but it's hard to get through those as they are full of personal opinion and bias without any real back to back information. Mostly there are people picking at single examples of a failure and not common failure. I hope to hear about what makes a great surf spinning reel in terms of things like gear style and material. rotor cup and embedded spool vs. rotor arms and skirted spool. Line roller bearing vs. bushing, line lay importance, reeling smoothness and the trades we make giving up on that, weight, ease of mantainence and simple designs versus highly complex designs, anti-reverse clutch versus simplier ratcheting devices, retrieve rates, etc. When I think of the great surf reels over the decades I think of Crack/Luxor, Mitchells, Garcia, Penn 704/706. Many are still using these today, including me. VS definitely changed the game by adding seals. It appears to me that RK took a Crack and improved on it with seals and probably most importantly really change the design of the drag in a way that makes it really easily sealed without hindering the reeling aspects too harshly. But outside the sealing it is a Crack that is drilled out to remove the parasitic weight (unnecessary material that adds weight but doesn't improve it's strength or durability). Most specifically, I want to know about the full rotor cup versus rotor arm / skirted spool differences in design. To me, as a surf guy, you cannot possibly handle the load that would require a full cup design (even though my reels have full cups). You would get dragged into the wash, break the line, or break the rod before bending a rotor arm to hit the spool. It would be great if people responding did not mention brand names. Let's talk the feature/quality that makes a surf reel a surf reel.