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  1. Hi Mike, I'll be sure to look up Mr. Fearn. I've always appreciated watching casters who are very competent and make it all look very easy.
  2. Hi Mike Yes, I agree with you that rolling a long sunk line to the surface in the surf isn't realistic. I also agree the motion of the surf messes with spey casting basics to the point of it's not possible. I always felt the beauty of basic spey casting is the line and rod are doing the bulk of the work. A day's fishing is fairly easy on the fisherman. In the surf, my best success was achieved by deploying a simple roll cost or 2 to get that 10 yards or so of line on the water that I could smartly lift and overhead cast, shooting as much running line as possible with little effort. My old fly lines (which were full spey lines) have been cut to a length that is in line with the end result of this technique for the surf. The 13ft double hander was much less effort and much more effective than the single-handed rod in getting distance. For years on lochs, I've watched and even participated in the activity of using heavy line rated single handed rods and single / double haul casting in an effort to achieve distance, get the fly or lure out there. Over the course of a fishing day, it's all a bit too much work in my view
  3. Hi All I'm new to the forum overall and just noticed this flyfishing forum and have read through the topic of switch casting rods. I was raised in Scotland and spent 30 years fly-fishing rivers and lochs before heading to the USA. I've spent countless days with double handed rods chasing salmon on fast flowing rivers and routinely employed double spey casting and variations on the theme of switch or roll casting. I'm self taught and no doubt have a bunch of bad habits. Of interest, in 30 years I never saw anyone seriously attempting switch casting with a single handed rod. In November 2022 I tried flyfishing the beaches of New Jersey for stripers and would add the following. When spey casting on a river and starting your cast, you typically have about 15-20 yards of line out. The moving river water and resulting drag on the fly line helps to load the rod. When making the forward stroke you shoot a lot of running line. In the surf with wind and wave its entirely different. I found managing the line and keeping in contact with the fly very difficult. I was using a single handed 10WT rod and line. However, next time I took my 13ft double handed rod made by ECHO and rated for an 11 line. I also took some fly lines that I've cut a little shorter 65ft a length I'm comfortable casting. After fishing out a cast (stripping rather than swinging) this rod allowed me to first roll cast or switch cast the line out flat, That gave my 15 yards of line out. I then picked picked it off it off the water and overhead cast the full distance. I was able to do that quite easily and hadn't been able to do that with the single-handed shorter rod. This rod from ECHO was an absolute pleasure to use. This roll casting some line out is standard practice if using a sunk line on a river. Roll it out and bring it to the surface and then execute your double spey cast is the routine. So, in summary for what it's worth I thought pure switch casting had limited scope in the surf but the double handed rod typically though about as a switch casting rod was much more effective than the single handed rod. Hope this helps.
  4. In your video you talked to how the neoprene helmet kept your head warmish and hair dry. What is recommended for footwear on top of a semi dry suit. Obviously, you need something that will stand walking on different surfaces between the car and water, be okay in the kayak on the water and not be an impediment for swimming if you need to. I've seen surfcasters who simply wear a cheap pair of sneakers from Walmart on top of the neoprene boot attached to waders. However, I've also read swimming with sneakers in nigh on impossible. I have wading boots for surfcasting and hoped to use them. Now I'm not so sure.
  5. Hi, great experiment and video. So, as a newbie targeting Spring and Fall, it's a case of (a) want to go fishing, make sure you have a good kayak, and (b) want to cover one of the fundamentals of ensuring you come home, get a suitable dry / semi-dry kayak suit.
  6. Hi, well if the Chesapeake Bay is fishing well that's very good news for me. I'm currently reading Lenny Rudow's guide to the Chesapeake and I'm overwhelmed by how much information is in there. I'll take you up on the Red Drum fishing offer. I've seen that on YouTube and have fished for puppy and bull red drum on the outer banks (all surfcasting). Obviously, I'm a beginner and having anglers / kayakers put themselves out to help get me acquainted with the sport is much appreciated.
  7. LoL!, Yes if the original event is successful, I'll post a photo. If not, I'll just sulk and think, maybe I should have stuck to surfcasting!
  8. I see the discussion on kayak stability is ongoing. I think its ongoing largely because the industry doesn't seem to have done a lot to answer this question. Maybe it has, but if it has it's not easy data to find. I did an internet search for annual kayak sales (8M) and 57% of these are fishing kayaks (4.6M). Say average selling price is $1,800 yielding a market of $8bn and growing annually. I guess most new kayakers would have what's the most stable kayak as one of their first questions. You'd think the leading manufacturers would have done some controlled studies in a pool with a wave machine or something and addressed this issue of stability. If you're kayaks are the most stable, you're the market leader, so shout if from the roof tops. Instead, it's left to kayakers making videos in their swimming pools and so on. I'm thankful for the kayakers and think the industry needs to make it easier for new entrants.
  9. Hi All There was a last-minute change to the kayak purchase. I watched a few you-tube videos (including one well known kayak fishermen) calling into question the integrity of the hull of the Hobie compass. I went back to my original spot and ordered the Old Line Sportsman PDL 120 as the compromise between the Hobie and the Sportsman 132 big water. As they say, you pays your money and takes your chances. In everything I've watched and read, I'm happy with that purchasing decision. In terms of car topping I've also ordered some stuff to help me. Rhino T-Bar loader and saddles that fit my Audi fitted X-Bars. I've also ordered a large foam block to sit between the T-Bar and rear saddles to protect the roof based sat nav and radio antenna. So, I've moved on to other stuff now such as the right clothing and trying to find a reasonably priced fish / depth finder. I intend to fish the Spring and Fall months more so than summer months therefore a Kotastat semi dry suit seems like the way to go from what I've read. I'm not the most electronic device savvy guy therefore an uncomplicated depth finder is preferred. Lowrance Hook Reveal 5 seems reasonable to me. Anyone sees anything wrong with semi dry suit or fish finder choice let me know please. I've recently found the snaggedline forum and intend to post an introduction. If there's a group of retired guys that welcome newcomers on the bay then that would be fabulous. With all the advice I've got here combined with everything I've watched, solitary kayak fishing is not the right approach at least until I've got some hours under me. Even then fishing with companions is better than fishing alone. Once again, thanks to all that have helped get me this far.
  10. Well folks reading all these comments has been an education for me. All said and done there's a bunch of things influencing kayak stability from a design viewpoint and as demonstrated in the videos another bunch of things with respect to kayak experience that will influence stability and risk/frequency of taking a swim. Add to that there are people's understanding of external risk factors such as weather, wind and tide. All in all for me, the novice, it's about putting myself in a good spot from a basic kayak design viewpoint so that all I have to worry about is the experience and external conditions stuff. I trust the kayak. I don't like the look of the wider, much higher seated kayaks. So, to that end, I've been back through all of these kayak websites, looking at them with my new knowledge and on balance of safety, fishability and ease of transport I'm going to go with a Hobie Mirage Outback. Little more expensive than I'd hoped but I don't want to be 18 months down the line wishing I'd bought something better.
  11. The engineer in me agrees with the low center of gravity viewpoint. When I've come across high seat kayaks on-line that have higher seats, I've thought that can't be right. As you say the higher you go the wider the hull needs to be. Before you know it, you're in a boat I guess.
  12. Thanks, I'll look into these. I'll keep poking this for the next few days and ultimately make a decision and move on.
  13. Thanks again for the comments and videos, really helpful. The comment of "all things considered, the kayakers threshold for NO GO conditions will be below what all boats at this price point will be capable of handling" is what I was hoping to see. I read that a boats stability is primarily a function of length, weight and breadth. I also read that one shouldn't plan to utilize the load carrying capacity of the Kayak more than 70%. My weight along with clothing. tackle and stuff is likely to be 300lbs +/- 5%. Using that 70% rule +/- a few, that puts the following boats in the frame: Hobie Mirage Outback, Old Town Sportsman 106,120,132. The 106 is 10ft 6" rather than 12ft or 13ft long but is 36" wide rather than 34". Using Old Town's kayak selector, the 106 is eliminated when you select saltwater fishing. But if it isn't really, it's the ideal weight and car topper. And lastly there's a $800 difference between the 106 and 132 or Hobie Mirage. Do you believe the 106 is adequate for the Raritan Bay area? The Hobie Mirage is about 20lbs lighter than the Old Town 132, costs $250 more and my weight utilization is at 74% versus 63% with the Old Town. So, cost and capacity utilization would say Old Town. Is a 20lbs weight saving a huge differentiator when it comes to moving, handling, storing, car topping? Thanks in advance for any opinion you can offer
  14. Hi, thanks again. Yes, I'm 58, 230lbs and 6ft 1". I hope to fish middle/upper Chesapeake Bay and occasionally Raritan Bay. I will not go ocean side, but these bays are pretty large and sea like in themselves. Myself plus stuff might mean 330-350lbs loaded up. Being retired I anticipate fishing alone mostly. Therefore, my priority in boat choice is safety derived from stability. I talked to the folks at Old Line and this is the boat they recommended for the application. I had hoped to find some independent testing of kayaks but there's nothing there. My you-tube research has also indicated this is a very stable boat or as stable as they come. If I can avoid a trailer I will. Sold my Tundra 12 months back so I'm stuck with what I have for a few years.
  15. Thanks for the input. For a few reasons, mainly safety, I'm happy with the boat choice. I'm hoping that a suitable loading / racking solution along with appropriate lashing of the boat to rack and car (including front and stern) will be good enough. If not, it'll be surfcasting