Im Sorry but most of the the fishermans talk lot of crap always no one will tell u good spots and what they using but they will tell u how many fish they get from spot that u fish and didn't get any.its all about time and how u reel with different lures please dont waste your money with lures places u go to fish u need bucktail,diamond jig and sp minnow stick with them for now than u try top water lures.dont pay attention wat they said and wat they use just go to place's and check u r self .