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About TroutGhost

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  1. I said very clearly that this has already been decided in courts. It's a statement of fact. CDA 230 has been the law in the USA since 1996. It's a settled law. Here is a list of legal cases, in case you're interested.
  2. It's more than your private property. The Congressional act sought to define which websites are publishers and which are not. Publishers are subject to being sued for a variety of reasons. That used to be the case before 1996 and caused AOL/Prodigy to be sued for things that third parties posted on their sites. CDA 230 grants publishers of user generated content immunity by defining them as not publishers. Without CDA 230, that would mean that you are legally responsible for the content because you exercise editorial control over the content published on SOL. A content publisher is liable to be sued for things like libel. Newspapers are sued all the time, right? CDA 230 corrected that issue and granted user generated content sites like SOL immunity from lawsuits even though SOL exercises editorial decisions over the content. That means that you can exercise your editorial discretion on the site and NOT legally be held responsible for that content, even though you edit and control it. This executive order seeks to water down that protection. The executive order extends far beyond Twitter and Facebook, as I documented in the original post. And yes, Trump may have overstepped as some experts are saying that he can't negate an act of Congress, which is what he's trying to do. From the EFF page on CDA 230, which is written by attorneys:
  3. Yes, it has been decided in courts and by an act of Congress. It is an online platform/website and not a publisher that is subject to libel and other kinds of lawsuits.
  4. That's exactly what exposes SOL to having their legal liability shield lifted. Any website that edits or deletes user contributed comments falls under the executive order. These are the sites that are affected: These are some of the conditions that can cause SOL to lose liability shield: So if you moderate a comment and fail to provide adequate notice, reasoned explanation or a meaningful opportunity to be heard, then that can come back on SOL. The language in that executive order is extremely broad.
  5. Trump has issued an executive order that waters down Communications Decency Act. Section 230. CDA 230 is a law that protects online forums against lawsuits for what third parties post on their website. The law also protects forums even if they moderate and edit the posts of the third parties who post on forums. CDA 230 is what makes Stripers Online possible. Without that protection, Stripers Online could be held legally liable for every comment made by its members and could possibly lose its ability to moderate members because moderating a member could trigger a lawsuit. According to the Electronic Frontier Foundation: It will be interesting to see what organizations will step up to defend free speech and safe harbor provisions that make forums like Stripers Online possible.
  6. Shoulder bags can put a pain in my back, indeed!
  7. I spoke with my friend over Twitter DM a couple hours ago. His response, when asked about the HK economy was "What economy?" He said because of the protests, then the virus and then the political crackdown there is really no economy. The restaurants are open but people are being cautious and that "business is dead across the board," his exact words. He also is not feeling good about the future once social distancing is relaxed because he anticipates the protests to resume anew. So it looks like Hong Kong was in poor shape economically before the virus but that they managed to dodge it so far because of the social distancing, face mask wearing and so on.
  8. I just sent a message to a friend of mine in Hong Kong about that and I'll let you know what he said. I'm pretty interested! Found this in an April 5, 2020 article in the Financial Times: Hong Kong Business Relief Plan My friend posted on an ex-pat site about a Hong Kong government relief plan for businesses. So I guess that means some businesses are suffering? I'll let you know what my friend, who is a businessman in Hong Kong, shares. "Employment Support Scheme: All employers who have been making Mandatory Provident Fund (MPF) contributions for employees are eligible. The wage subsidy to be provided by the Government is calculated based on 50% of the monthly salary, which is capped at $18,000 (i.e. the median monthly wage in Q2 2019), for a period of six months. I assume this amounts to a maximum of $9,000 / employee.. To be disbursed to employers in two payments, with the first not later than June 2020. Expect to benefit 1.5 million employees."
  9. Seems like many people here in Western Mass are taking it seriously. I don't leave the house but once a week. Yet when I do go out, except for the oddball senior citizen male with the scowl on his face, most people are wearing masks and practicing social distancing. Scrolling through this discussion it looks like those who feel the pandemic is overblown are consistently getting negative thumbs down. So that confirms that those who downplay it are in the minority. Many articles coming out now about people who died from ignoring quarantining because they believed the lies that the pandemic response was overblown. It's sad to see a health issue be politicized this way.
  10. They did far more than self-quarantining if they didn't feel well. Schools and businesses were closed in January. Businesses began work from home in January. Here's a quote from an article about why Hong Kong fared better than the USA. I'd link but SOL doesn't allow links?? "Soon after people caught news of the new coronavirus, they were using hand sanitizer and malls and offices had set up thermal scanners, Beech reports. Kwok Ka-ki, a lawmaker and doctor in Hong Kong, said, "...Every citizen did their part, including wearing masks and washing their hands and taking necessary precautions, such as avoiding crowded places and gatherings." Eventually the government of Hong Kong implemented tighter border controls and ordered civil servants to telework, which led other companies to do the same, Beech reports. Hong Kong also closed schools in January through at least the end of April."
  11. What is the earliest time for parking at the event? I usually stroll in later in the day to avoid the lines. But this year I want to be there for the goody bag.
  12. Thank you! It was helpful and inspirational! Thanks for posting!
  13. Those sessions sound awesome!
  14. Some of the fly tyers at the Marlborough show are grumpy and unfriendly. The vendors are fine though. I went twice and the fly tyers ruined it both times. They put me off on ever returning. Even though Marlborough is closer to me I travel the extra three or four hours to get to the Edison, NJ show. The show at Edison, NJ (happening on the 24th) is larger and has many authors giving fly tying and fly fishing lectures. I saw Charlie Craven there who gave a good lecture that helped me become a better fly tyer. He was very generous about answering questions. The vendor booths are aisle after aisle of fly tying and fly fishing gear. I can spend hours picking through fur, feathers, hooks and inspecting the tenkara gear. There are also some good book merchants there, too. I picked up a hard to find (at the time) book The North Country Fly by Robert L. Smith that has an exhaustive account of the history of those British spiders.
  15. I spent 20 minutes looking for it. Care to share a link please?